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BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day

BorneTobyWilde

Modnote - Thread moved to new thread because the other one was near 10k posts.

Bangernomics part 5 here
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057493741

Bangernomics rules:
Under €2000
Valid NCT
Something you'd actually drive yourself
VRT paid
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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-bmw-520i-nct-05-18/15133222

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nct 5/18
2005

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christy02

Rows Grower wrote: »

This is the stuff that gives me the heebee jeebees.

Why is that? If a flywheel went on car it would cost more than that, and that seems to be perfectly normal nowadays.
800 euro on a then 10 year old car is hardly horrific.

christy02

Old diesel wrote: »

The main hybrid battery?????.

Was it a refurbished/rebuilt one.

It was a reconditioned battery. The main hybrid battery. Fitted at my house included in cost.

terrydel

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/vw-golf-tdi-estate-nct-5-20-mint/21830732

Big miles, but plenty of nct and a months tax.
Looks spotless, good photos too.

Toyotafanboi

Rows Grower wrote: »

This is the stuff that gives me the heebee jeebees.

It's not actually that bad though is it. If someone got a 2008 A4 and it needed a flywheel or a set if injectors it'd be similar money. The only difficult but is not too many lads will work on those batterys.

Wouldn't be for me either though, for the time being.

Rows Grower

christy02 wrote: »

We have a 08 civic hybrid. Bought it a year ago. IMA light came on shortly after we bought it.
Got battery replaced under warranty from a guy in Clare for around 800 euro. Fine ever since. Years warranty on battery.
Does 55 mpg easily. I have monitored it a lot. Wife’s car and she does mainly short spins.

This is the stuff that gives me the heebee jeebees.

Old diesel

christy02 wrote: »

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Yeah, speaking as a bangernomics hybrid owner - don't do it.

One hybrid battery warning light on the dash and its all over. I keep reading about IMA Civic problems online, and I get more and more paranoid. I'm waiting to get a new test on mine before selling it on

We have a 08 civic hybrid. Bought it a year ago. IMA light came on shortly after we bought it.
Got battery replaced under warranty from a guy in Clare for around 800 euro. Fine ever since. Years warranty on battery.
Does 55 mpg easily. I have monitored it a lot. Wife’s car and she does mainly short spins.

The main hybrid battery?????.

Was it a refurbished/rebuilt one.

Interslice

Deleted User wrote: »

NOx isn't a particularly big component of greenhouse gases/climate change. N2O is a huge component, and is largely produced by catalytic convertors. Diesels and Petrols produce roughly the same amounts of N2O.

Diesel produce less Co2, the same N2O, more NOx and more particulate matter. They are definitely better for the environment than an equivalent petrol car, while also being worse for human health. Which is also probably better for the environment.

Never thought about it like that:pac:

christy02

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Yeah, speaking as a bangernomics hybrid owner - don't do it.

One hybrid battery warning light on the dash and its all over. I keep reading about IMA Civic problems online, and I get more and more paranoid. I'm waiting to get a new test on mine before selling it on

We have a 08 civic hybrid. Bought it a year ago. IMA light came on shortly after we bought it.
Got battery replaced under warranty from a guy in Clare for around 800 euro. Fine ever since. Years warranty on battery.
Does 55 mpg easily. I have monitored it a lot. Wife’s car and she does mainly short spins.

[Deleted User]

wotzgoingon wrote: »

That's diesel engines. Some clown some where decided diesels are clean and our dumb government decided to give them cheap tax rates. ( you couldn't even make this up)

Yes supposedly they have less C02 but they are still not clean they produce other emissions and that clown mentioned above never seemed to think about that.

NOx isn't a particularly big component of greenhouse gases/climate change. N2O is a huge component, and is largely produced by catalytic convertors. Diesels and Petrols produce roughly the same amounts of N2O.

Diesel produce less Co2, the same N2O, more NOx and more particulate matter. They are definitely better for the environment than an equivalent petrol car, while also being worse for human health. Which is also probably better for the environment.

wotzgoingon

colm_mcm wrote: »

To be fair, most countries use Co2 as a measurement for environmental performance. The Kyoto protocol is based on the premise that CO2 (amongst others) causes global warming. It’s not just something random like window tax.

Never mind me I'm still pissed that diesels got cheap tax while majority of petrol cars got screwed.

Petrol all the way..... :cool:

colm_mcm

To be fair, most countries use Co2 as a measurement for environmental performance. The Kyoto protocol is based on the premise that CO2 (amongst others) causes global warming. It’s not just something random like window tax.
Of course it was shortsighted on the part of the Greens, but these sort of measures in many countries have led to manufacturers upping their game in terms of petrol cars. There’s no way turbocharged petrols would be so commonplace if it weren’t for emissions taxation.

wotzgoingon

up for anything wrote: »

I was told that only the latter half of 08 have the cheaper tax. That's why it's a wish list. I'd settle for some of it if I can't have all.

That's diesel engines. Some clown some where decided diesels are clean and our dumb government decided to give them cheap tax rates. ( you couldn't even make this up)

Yes supposedly they have less C02 but they are still not clean they produce other emissions and that clown mentioned above never seemed to think about that.

Duke O Smiley

Rows Grower wrote: »

And that Sir is the caliber of advice I was seeking!

Thank you.

The Honda hybrid system I have is a bit different to that in the Toyota, but in my case anyway the fuel savings have been minimal over my previous 1.3 petrol corolla.

up for anything

colm_mcm wrote: »

You can’t have everything on your wish list.

You’d easily get a petrol Avensis, early 2008 had cheaper tax.

I was told that only the latter half of 08 have the cheaper tax. That's why it's a wish list. I'd settle for some of it if I can't have all.

punisher5112 wrote: »

You do know they could still put in an insurance claim against you..... I would be contacting insurance and stating the facts that there was a collision and they took responsibility.

I've contacted insurance and two sets of guards so I should be in the clear. They told me at the scene that they were scrapping it when I offered them the chance to meet up and get the second key if they were intending to sell it on. He also assured the guard that went to speak to him at his residence that the car had been crushed within a couple of hours. The guard who knows them seems to think that I got a good deal and won't have any comeback.

lawred2 wrote: »

they gave you some cash for a car that they crashed into?

do you still have the registration cert? Is the car still in your name?

Posted to Shannon.

bear1 wrote: »

you can't be serious?

If that's directed at me. Yes, I am. I made the best of a **** situation. They reversed into me trying to make room for a bin lorry coming the other way. They seemed decent enough although looked like they were going to do a runner when I suggested calling the guards. One of them asked me how much I'd paid for my car and I told them.. rounded up slightly. Then they offered to buy it from me. I guessed that the driver wasn't insured and if I lifted my phone to call the guards they'd have legged it in their pick-up. Actually while I was repeating moronically on a loop that "we need to call the guards" a garda car passed us doing 0.5 miles an hour and didn't bother their arses to pause for a moment, open the window and ask if everything was ok when it was obvious that an accident had just occured. Donuts calling or somesuch.

If I'd gone through my insurance I'd have gotten **** all and probably blown my no claims bonus through having to claim from myself. The guard who checked them out seemed to think I'd done well for myself. I was pretty shocked from the accident, slightly intimidated and very nervous.

Rows Grower

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Yeah, speaking as a bangernomics hybrid owner - don't do it.

One hybrid battery warning light on the dash and its all over. I keep reading about IMA Civic problems online, and I get more and more paranoid. I'm waiting to get a new test on mine before selling it on

And that Sir is the caliber of advice I was seeking!

Thank you.

Rows Grower

wonski wrote: »

When you buy a banger you don't really plan for 150k km ahead.

More like couple of months

I hear ya wonski, that's why I don't want to buy a banger.

Duke O Smiley

Yeah, speaking as a bangernomics hybrid owner - don't do it.

One hybrid battery warning light on the dash and its all over. I keep reading about IMA Civic problems online, and I get more and more paranoid. I'm waiting to get a new test on mine before selling it on

wonski

When you buy a banger you don't really plan for 150k km ahead.

More like couple of months

Rows Grower

grogi wrote: »

It isn't a PHEV, you don't charge it from the plug. Its hybrid nature helps it achieve excellent fuel economy - the energy otherwise lost during breaking is captured instead and reused.

Fantastic car, despite being awful ascetically, the best car I ever owned.

Would you think one like the one in the ad would do another 100k miles without any big outlay looming?

I have a dread of some big expense lurking in the long grass with these modern yokes, there could be chocolate or cheese or tofu gearboxes just waiting to give in after 150k.

Toyotafanboi

Mad_Mike wrote: »

Actually now that you say it, i can't unsee it, but seems to be an A6 thing

https://i.ibb.co/mFn6n4F/a6.jpg

Yeah, must just be the way they are then, they all look similar.

grogi

Rows Grower wrote: »

Lovely looking car.

These questions are not directly at you Duke but you might hazard a guess, would something like that be expected to last a while without major investment and be practical for doing maybe 300km's a week made up of lot's of short journeys?

Can these be plugged in at home without hassle? There's a public charger near where it would be parked and I've rarely seen a car plugged into it. How much would it cost to run if it was nearly fully charged all the time?

I know there are a lot of variable factors involved but I'm only looking for educated bar stool advice not a written warranty.

It isn't a PHEV, you don't charge it from the plug. Its hybrid nature helps it achieve excellent fuel economy - the energy otherwise lost during breaking is captured instead and reused.

Fantastic car, despite being awful ascetically, the best car I ever owned.

Mad_Mike

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

You could park another A6 in the gap between the bonnet and bumper, or the gaps under the headlights.

Actually now that you say it, i can't unsee it, but seems to be an A6 thing

Rows Grower

wotzgoingon wrote: »

It's a Hybrid so petrol and electric. You do not need to plug in as the engine and braking charge the battery. They are great for stuck in traffic so if you live in a city with lots of stop start driving the electric motor is great. Then once you have a clear road switch on engine and drive.

In normal engines you use more fuel stuck in traffic stop start driving that is why Hydrids are great.

Ahhh, thanks for explaining wotzactuallygoingon!

Would something like this be suited for non stop 10km journeys doing at most 50km an hour? As in would it work out more economical to run than something similar sized and age in straight petrol?

colm_mcm

Rows Grower wrote: »

Lovely looking car.

These questions are not directly at you Duke but you might hazard a guess, would something like that be expected to last a while without major investment and be practical for doing maybe 300km's a week made up of lot's of short journeys?

Can these be plugged in at home without hassle? There's a public charger near where it would be parked and I've rarely seen a car plugged into it. How much would it cost to run if it was nearly fully charged all the time?

I know there are a lot of variable factors involved but I'm only looking for educated bar stool advice not a written warranty.

That has the self parking too. Great tech for such an old car.

wotzgoingon

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

You could park another A6 in the gap between the bonnet and bumper, or the gaps under the headlights.

I went back to have a look and don't see anything out of the ordinary.

Toyotafanboi

Mad_Mike wrote: »

Maybe it's my eyesight, but I can't genuinely see anything that is majorly off in those pics??

Also, I see it's now down to 1995 from 2350, but as you said, at this money, it certanly would not be a deal breaker for me either

You could park another A6 in the gap between the bonnet and bumper, or the gaps under the headlights.

wotzgoingon

Rows Grower wrote: »

Lovely looking car.

These questions are not directly at you Duke but you might hazard a guess, would something like that be expected to last a while without major investment and be practical for doing maybe 300km's a week made up of lot's of short journeys?

Can these be plugged in at home without hassle? There's a public charger near where it would be parked and I've rarely seen a car plugged into it. How much would it cost to run if it was nearly fully charged all the time?

I know there are a lot of variable factors involved but I'm only looking for educated bar stool advice not a written warranty.

It's a Hybrid so petrol and electric. You do not need to plug in as the engine and braking charge the battery. They are great for stuck in traffic so if you live in a city with lots of stop start driving the electric motor is great. Then once you have a clear road switch on engine and drive.

In normal engines you use more fuel stuck in traffic stop start driving that is why Hydrids are great.

Rows Grower

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-prius-t-4/21941473

Nice looking Prius with good spec and low miles, test till November, €1999

Lovely looking car.

These questions are not directly at you Duke but you might hazard a guess, would something like that be expected to last a while without major investment and be practical for doing maybe 300km's a week made up of lot's of short journeys?

Can these be plugged in at home without hassle? There's a public charger near where it would be parked and I've rarely seen a car plugged into it. How much would it cost to run if it was nearly fully charged all the time?

I know there are a lot of variable factors involved but I'm only looking for educated bar stool advice not a written warranty.

Mad_Mike

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Not saying it's a total deal breaker at that price but the panel gaps around the front of the car wouldn't inspire a lot of confidence.

Maybe it's my eyesight, but I can't genuinely see anything that is majorly off in those pics??

Also, I see it's now down to 1995 from 2350, but as you said, at this money, it certanly would not be a deal breaker for me either

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gfwd wrote: »

My own car will probably not make it through the next NCT so I'm sniffing around to see what's out there that I'd like.

I generally dislike Mercs but I have a liking for these. How good bad are they?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-c180-1-8-auto-nct-04-20-low-miles/21902609?campaign=6

"You normally can't get these cars with this trim level and low mileage".

That's a good thing, absence of leather would turn me off it :pac: