Johnboy1951 wrote: The main points seem to be 14 years of age and older used on bike paths and bike lanes only ... not on footpaths max speed of 20kmph given same access as bicycles such as some one way streets For use on other than bike lanes a special licence is required Approved protection required I think .... headgear.
McGiver wrote: In England it's enforced, lack of lights at night at least from my personal experience, and I've heard helmets too. Gardai don't see to be able to enforce anything here.
McGiver wrote: And yes to mandated headgear.
ED E wrote: » You're greatly exaggerating the risk of a small 36V lipo pack. As long as you don't charge one while visibly damaged (post crash) they're about as dangerous as a laptop.
antodeco wrote: » And so should bicycles, which they don't. They are meant to, but they don't. No helmet wearing, lights, going through lights, cutting across the front of your car without notice. As mentioned, it should be based on the person not vehicle. An idiot is as dangerous on a bicycle as a scooter and vice versa.
prinzeugen wrote: » What I ment was that only scooters that meet a EU or Irish standard would be allowed on the road. Ie one is fitted with EU approved, factory fitted headlights, brakes etc. A €2 set of lights from Aldi wont do. Also the helmets would potentially need to meet EC22.07 regs like motorbike helmets. Any future law will need to be boilerplated to stop bogie sellers saying something is legal (like now) when its not.
grogi wrote: » Mandatory helmets? Let's not get into the helmet hysteria again.
prinzeugen wrote: » What I ment was that only scooters that meet a Also the helmets would potentially need to meet EC22.07 regs like motorbike helmets.
KildareMan wrote: » Minor correction. It's ECE 22-05 not -07
tuxy wrote: » I was unaware there was a tax bracket that these scooters are covered under. Electric motorcycle/scooters are €35 a year to tax. Of course it would have to be registered and adhere to EU regulations. Are EU regulations taken into considering by the manufacturer? Has anyone managed to get one registered yet?https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32013R0168 It may require installing seat/saddle and having the correct lights amongst other things but at least it's possible.
magentis wrote: » Saw two of these scooters impounded this morning on Wilton terrace.Fair play to the gardai.These things are an absolute death-trap.
antodeco wrote: » Going through a junction today (I had a green light) and a cyclist went straight across in front of me. I had to emergency break. I stopped safely. No danger to me.
quarryman wrote: » The amount of cyclists that I see every day cruising through red lights, usually not wearing a helmet, is crazy.
Martynet wrote: Motorbikes are much much more dangerous. Many bike riders die every day. And they are not banned. So why would you ban something what's much slower and safer? Doesn't make any sense, does it?
ted1 wrote: Why do you think it’s crazy to not wear a helmet ? Look up the studies and you’ll see valid reasons for not wearing one
Martynet wrote: » Motorbikes are much much more dangerous. Many bike riders die every day. And they are not banned. So why would you ban something what's much slower and safer? Doesn't make any sense, does it?
KildareMan wrote: » Pure rubbish. Many bike riders, on a global scale die every day for sure. As do cyclists, car drivers, lorry drivers, bus passengers etc etc etc.
McGiver wrote: » Small difference sure. Hence Motorbikes require: Driving licence Insurance Mandated gear The licence is significant. You injure or kill a weaker road user, you lose it.
Martynet wrote: » Most of the scooter riders wear helmet and hivis. And let me tell you, most of them wouldn't mind paying insurance. But it's impossible at the moment, because irish insurance companies are stuck in the past. Same as irish law.
KildareMan wrote: » You can't insure something that is currently illegal.
