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Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

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.Charlo

malinheader wrote: »

Rte news reports this morning that a stash of weapons has been discovered that belong to a gang of youths in Dublin which had intended to attack another group in Drimna I think was mentioned. The inspector said he has never come across such a large haul of dangerous weapons, knives a d sledge hammers. WTF is happening to this country. Does anyone in power even care.

It's bad now, imagine what its gonna be like in 10-15 years.

Ash.J.Williams

Patty Hearst wrote: »

Yes I have a problem with importing African people and herding them into welfare ghettos which are no different from African ghettos in any other country.

Are we talkin livestock or humans here?

malinheader

Rte news reports this morning that a stash of weapons has been discovered that belong to a gang of youths in Dublin which had intended to attack another group in Drimna I think was mentioned. The inspector said he has never come across such a large haul of dangerous weapons, knives a d sledge hammers. WTF is happening to this country. Does anyone in power even care.

Cazale

A man's body has been found in a car on fire on the M1. He was shot a number of times in the head and chest.

Sand

These consequences of mass migration are all so predictable. They were predicted, and yet the policy was pursued all the same.

Entirely unnecessarily, the Guards have to deal with gangs almost entirely inspired by London postcode gangs. If not the case already, the Guards will shortly be under siege by NGO's and activists attempting to establish a case for 'institutional racism'. These activists of course will not want to solve the problems, merely secure a job for life criticising and advising the Guards relations with these gangs.

All this entirely predictable social strife for nothing in return.

MrFresh

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Address the original point please mrfresh

Ps. Read it slowly and carefully before typing your response.

I did. Non-nationals and citizens can be deported. It is a condition of entry. The minister has the discretion to deport them and has deported many people.

iebamm2580

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/less-than-a-fifth-of-deportation-orders-carried-out-1.3680876%3Fmode=amp

Beechwoodspark

tayto lover wrote: »

Can these people not be deported if they offend here?
It should also be a condition of entry into the country.
Commit crime and you will be sent back home.

Address the original point please mrfresh

Ps. Read it slowly and carefully before typing your response.

MrFresh

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

So all these guys will be stripped off their citizenship and sent packing back to wherever yeah?

Yeah right. Stop deluding yerself.

What you're doing now is the logical fallacies of moving the goalposts, strawman argument and reductio ad absurdum. Having realised you were wrong about the legislation and will of government, rather than accept you were wrong, you have instead moved the argument to the extreme claim that all "these guys" will be deported, a claim nobody made. The fact remains that the legislation is there and the government uses it when necessary, as evidenced by the number of asylum refusal, deportation orders and refusals of visas. Maybe if you could narrow down who "these guys" are I could help you understand further.

Dirkziggler

tomwaits48 wrote: »

Utter scumbags.

Why exactly none of them kids have a conviction between them.

Beechwoodspark

MrFresh wrote: »

Minister has the power to deport non nationals

Immigration Act 1999 Section 3

The power to revoke citizenship has been a power available since the 1956 Act

We even had a referendum to give the government power to deport children born to immigrants in the state.

Last year the government attempted to deport a child to China despite him having no personal connection to the place.

Any other laws you need?

So all these guys will be stripped off their citizenship and sent packing back to wherever yeah?

Yeah right. Stop deluding yerself.

MrFresh

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Deporting young men who have spent most of their lives here and may have residence or even citizenship?

Show me that legislation please?

Or else stop talking absolute scutter

Minister has the power to deport non nationals

Immigration Act 1999 Section 3

The power to revoke citizenship has been a power available since the 1956 Act

We even had a referendum to give the government power to deport children born to immigrants in the state.

Last year the government attempted to deport a child to China despite him having no personal connection to the place.

Any other laws you need?

SporadicMan

The sad thing is that I just continue to hold out on some misguided hope that this will all just be sorted out by people 'in charge'.

Yet the sentiment just isn't there. Even in the media, they barely report on it. The general society just doesn't care either.

I feel horrible for the people who have to live in **** areas like Clonee, Tyrellstown, etc.

Even Swords is becoming a bit of a ****hole / dangerous. It was a bit **** in the past but it's getting worse.

I'm a bit fearful for the future here in Dublin. I'm not one to scare easy or scaremonger, but I am not seeing any positives when I look at the youth of the country. These gangs seem fearless, and seem to have zero regard at all for others. These crimes are escalating every time they happen, soon there'll be regular murders and stabbings and we'll go onto accept it as normal. Areas in London didn't magically become like they are now, they got there through lack of sentiment to resolve it early.

I'm scared for my parents. They're getting on now. They live in North Co. Dublin and it terrifies me that their area might end up being riddled with this type of crime too.

Beechwoodspark

MrFresh wrote: »

The legislation you were speaking of is already in place and was introduced by a mainstream party.

Deporting young men who have spent most of their lives here and may have residence or even citizenship?

Show me that legislation please?

Or else stop talking absolute scutter

not yet

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

What falsehoods?

Don't, He'll grind you down with his version of reality, just don't, you'll only end up smashing your head against a wall..

MrFresh

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Show me how that is a falsehood

The legislation you were speaking of is already in place and was introduced by a mainstream party.

Beechwoodspark

MrFresh wrote: »

This one.

Show me how that is a falsehood

rossie1977

tayto lover wrote: »

Can these people not be deported if they offend here?
It should also be a condition of entry into the country.
Commit crime and you will be sent back home.

Obviously you can't be deported if you born in Ireland. But Ireland has been deporting lots of people for years..many who committed no crime. This story from a decade ago https://www.indymedia.ie/article/92126?userlanguage=ga&save_prefs=true

MrFresh

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

What falsehoods?

This one.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Don’t expect any of the mainstream political parties to ever contemplate such a move.

Beechwoodspark

MrFresh wrote: »

Except they do.

Yes, I imagine it's tough to debate someone who can point out you are factually incorrect. Really must cramp your style when you can't freely spread falsehoods.

What falsehoods?

MrFresh

declan2693 wrote: »

Just because they can doesnt mean they will

Except they do.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

No interest in debating you mrfresh. I know yer type-off with ye

Yes, I imagine it's tough to debate someone who can point out you are factually incorrect. Really must cramp your style when you can't freely spread falsehoods.

SEPT 23 1989

tayto lover wrote: »

Can these people not be deported if they offend here?
It should also be a condition of entry into the country.
Commit crime and you will be sent back home.

That's the kind of talk that will end you up in Zappones Ministry of Reprogramming

Beechwoodspark

MrFresh wrote: »

What are you talking about? It's already legislated for. A person here on a visa can be denied a renewal or an application for citizenship if they have a criminal record.

No interest in debating you mrfresh. I know yer type-off with ye

98q76e12hrflnk

MrFresh wrote: »

What are you talking about? It's already legislated for. A person here on a visa can be denied a renewal or an application for citizenship if they have a criminal record.

Just because they can doesnt mean they will

MrFresh

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Don’t expect any of the mainstream political parties to ever contemplate such a move.

There are smaller parties who might legislate for it.

Vote wisely ppl

What are you talking about? It's already legislated for. A person here on a visa can be denied a renewal or an application for citizenship if they have a criminal record.

refusetolose

whats the problem?

they were accused of not paying when they did pay

not yet

tayto lover wrote: »

Can these people not be deported if they offend here?
It should also be a condition of entry into the country.
Commit crime and you will be sent back home.

They're Irish innit..

not yet

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

They are seriously messed up people

They seem to reject Irish culture, their background culture (I mean west African, Central African, Middle East, Asian, whatever) and instead cling like barnacles to some British commuter town gang rubbish.

They are a laughable embarrassment to themselves - no wonder they are looked down upon everywhere they go

Is it cause we're black..

MrFresh

Again I ask, how is he different to any other scumbag youth?

tomwaits48

Utter scumbags.