greenspurs wrote: » Ah here...…….. Im out. All these snowflakes , that will end up not allowing their kid called Fergal play hurling in case he gets a splinter in his hand, have taken over.... Enjoy.
jasper100 wrote: » What experience did he have exactly? Did your group pay money to hear his story?
FixdePitchmark wrote: » Hope you haven't gone for a cycle A swim in sea Or played any sport
redmgar wrote: » Nope my group is a children's youth group and volunteered 2 hours of his free time on a Friday evening. Try again.
jasper100 wrote: » And his extensive climbing experience is?
Crusty Jocks wrote: » https://scss.tcd.ie/news/item.php?id=225“We have been preparing over the past four years. We train on an ongoing basis here in Ireland, both out in the hills and in the gym. In addition, we complete winter skills training in Scotland every year. We have also had a series of preparatory expeditions - we have climbed two 6500m peaks (Mera and Island Peak) in the Himalayas in 2016, and last summer we climbed Denali in Alaska (the tallest mountain in North America and the tallest in the world if measured base to summit).” Going by that he's been up three 6000+ meters peaks. I wouldn't call it totally inexperienced but I wouldn't call it 'extensive' either. Probably had more experience than some going up Everest and less than others. Krakauer wrote in his book that he saw clients at base camp undergoing crampon training from guides, how to put them on and use them. Crazy stuff. I don't think he was quite in that category.
greenspurs wrote: » Because its just a BIT insensitive to the family of the missing person? These lads are willing to search for a climber, because they will be paid for it! They are not being forced to go, the Sherpas are paid to go up and down mountains, and for search/recovery missions also. Is it similar to Search and rescue going out in storms to find people missing at sea? Medics helping wounded on the battlefields? Police officers tacking armed thugs ?
Hoboo wrote: » Someone's included him as dead on Wikipedia. Unlikely hes alive, but a bit early no?https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_died_climbing_Mount_Everest
jasper100 wrote: » Pre 8000m experience is considered to be prudent.
the.red.baron wrote: » The stink of judgement on this thread is pungent I doubt this guy just one day decided hey i'm gonna climb Everest out of the blue as was said earlier. His wife married him no doubt knowing the story before hand. Some people are born to sit on the couch there whole lives and some people are driven to more. Posting condemnation on an internet forum is not the zenith of human existence
redmgar wrote: » You're obviously an expert and that quick google search has informed you that his experience was inadequate, so I will leave you to it. How about you don't donate to the GoFundMe page at leave it there?
jam_mac_jam wrote: » You don't have to climb Everest to avoid sitting on your couch your whole life. This sanctimonious bull**** about living your best life is also not the zenith of human existence.
Yurt! wrote: » I dunno, the gleeful slating of a man and his family who has just died strikes me as another new low for AH. Tributes have been paid by former students and colleagues as to this man's excellence as an educator, academic and general character. I'd lean towards those reference points rather than the caustic, speculative and mean-spirited contributions here. I'll take a man who spent his time pushing himself (in all facets of his life it appears) than those who give over their time to slamming the deceased anonymously. And to those who say climbing Everest is dangerous. We're aware, you may as well spare us and post "water is wet."
Crusty Jocks wrote: » https://scss.tcd.ie/news/item.php?id=225“We have been preparing over the past four years. We train on an ongoing basis here in Ireland, both out in the hills and in the gym. In addition, we complete winter skills training in Scotland every year. We have also had a series of preparatory expeditions - we have climbed two 6500m peaks (Mera and Island Peak) in the Himalayas in 2016, and last summer we climbed Denali in Alaska (the tallest mountain in North America and the tallest in the world if measured base to summit).” Going by that he's been up three 6000+ meters peaks. I wouldn't call it totally inexperienced but I wouldn't call it 'extensive' either. Probably had more experience than some going up Everest and less than others.
Deleted User wrote: » Its "THEIR" whole lives.
PhuckHugh22 wrote: » I am curious. €750k seems an awful lot to search for a body and transport it home. Why do they need so much? Hopefully they can find the body for the family to get some closure.
BarryD2 wrote: » Interesting that no mention of European Alpine experience which would have been/ be the conventional route in terms of gaining climbing experience - Ireland/ Scotland... Alps... Greater Ranges. I suppose that's just an approach now - skip the Alps and onto the bigger stuff. Of above, Island Peak & Mera are considered 'trekking peaks' AFAIK, but Denali in North America is said to be a serious proposition - high, exposed to bad weather, lot of hauling and long routes on ice & snow. So a lot of experience would have been gained there.
tuxy wrote: » They needed that much because it was the maximum you can raise on gofundme. If gofundme had a higher cap then they would have needed more.
jasper100 wrote: » So he had really gone on only one reasonably serious climb before this. Hardly "extensive climbing experience" so.
PhuckHugh22 wrote: » Fair enough. Still though it seems an excessive amount to ask for to send a search up and transport home. Probably i just dont know the true cost of these things so it seems high to me. Anyway thanks for the info.
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