Stephen15 wrote: » If they wanted a Visa and met the requirements they could have one I wouldn't have a problem with African Americans either believe it or not. The usual nonsense that people bring up is that the Irish were emigrants for years which is completely irrelevant. We can make our own choices we owe nobody nothing and btw if other countries feel that certain Irish inmigrants are a burden to their country they are fully within their rights to deport them back to here just like the case of that Irish family that could deported as their son has CF Have the balls for what exactly?
DubInMeath wrote: » Your right I wouldn't believe you.
Stephen15 wrote: » Can you have a reasoned debate with me or are you all going to just resort to firing personal insults. Showing real maturity and intelligence there.
Stephen15 wrote: » People are just calling anyone with an opposing view to someone who is pro open borders a racist rather than actually wanting to debate the point they're trying to detract from the debate and/or they don't have a valid argument against such a person. If TR is such a racist then why does he get so much support from non-whites.
pjohnson wrote: » Your beloved TR also gets support from pedo's. Only the white pedo's mind since he doesnt like the brown ones. And you seem a supporter of his and dislike any non white. Interesting. #noonesracist
batgoat wrote: » If a non white couple from Nigeria move to Ireland, work in Ireland and eventually become Irish citizens. Would you view the children that they have in Ireland to be Irish?
Stephen15 wrote: » It makes Irish culture weaker. A mix match of different from around the world isn't as strong as Irish culture on it's own.
Stephen15 wrote: » I wouldn't see the problem if they're working but that's not the case with the majority already here.
Stephen15 wrote: » Flange/Flanders wrote: » I'm friends with lots of eastern europeans. Theyve mixed well into Irish society and while they still go to the eastern european shops, you also see them going to gaa matches and doinh great things for the community. I work with a lot of doctors from Pakistan and Sudan. Theyre really nice people and we have had some great chats talking about our different religions. I talk about Ramadan with them while they ask me about catholic religious festivals like Easter. They wished us a happy easter a few weeks ago. In fact, the most thing we agreed on was how to get rid of Jehovahs Witnesses quickly when they call! 😂 Apart from that, the Irish healthcare system would fall apart without them. No irish doctors want to work in the likes of Mayo, Kerry, letterkenny etc if theyre not from the area. Thats no offence to the area but if youre from Clare for example you want to work in the large urban centres or ennis. You dont want to be shipped to Wexford long term for example. So its not that foreign doctors are taking irish jobs, its that theyre filling posts and keeping regional hospitals going. Theres also very good foreign doctors in the large hospitals. Same as regards nurses. In fact, my favourite nurse that i work alongside is from India. Her patient interaction and clinical skills are outstanfing. Shes also the nicest person you could meet. So just imagine an Ireland solely for the Irish. If it came to pass, you would change your mind very quickly. The reason why healthcare professionals are leaving the country in their droves is because the pay and conditions are so bad that they have to emigrate meaning we are replacing them with cheap labour from abroad who are happy to work for a pittance in awful conditions as it's better than where they come from. It's race to the bottom the government are forcing the natives out. Btw I agree with a small degree of immigration where there are gaps in the labour market but what's happening is anything but the government support mass immigration into Ireland. Also the immigrants favoured should be the types who can culturally assimulate the easiest meaning Europeans.
Flange/Flanders wrote: » I'm friends with lots of eastern europeans. Theyve mixed well into Irish society and while they still go to the eastern european shops, you also see them going to gaa matches and doinh great things for the community. I work with a lot of doctors from Pakistan and Sudan. Theyre really nice people and we have had some great chats talking about our different religions. I talk about Ramadan with them while they ask me about catholic religious festivals like Easter. They wished us a happy easter a few weeks ago. In fact, the most thing we agreed on was how to get rid of Jehovahs Witnesses quickly when they call! 😂 Apart from that, the Irish healthcare system would fall apart without them. No irish doctors want to work in the likes of Mayo, Kerry, letterkenny etc if theyre not from the area. Thats no offence to the area but if youre from Clare for example you want to work in the large urban centres or ennis. You dont want to be shipped to Wexford long term for example. So its not that foreign doctors are taking irish jobs, its that theyre filling posts and keeping regional hospitals going. Theres also very good foreign doctors in the large hospitals. Same as regards nurses. In fact, my favourite nurse that i work alongside is from India. Her patient interaction and clinical skills are outstanfing. Shes also the nicest person you could meet. So just imagine an Ireland solely for the Irish. If it came to pass, you would change your mind very quickly.
Bobblehats wrote: » H It wouldn’t appear so. If you saw black kids in China would you view them as Chinese? I don’t think you would.... see people have this distinct, romantic vision of Ireland as a people the same way we do certain other places be they red yellow or black. It is the most fundamental, enduring credibility in the worlds eyes and when we lose our charm it will be gone
batgoat wrote: » If they're born in China and have Chinese citizenship. Yes they are in fact Chinese. Are you saying Paul McGrath or Phil Lynott weren't Irish because they weren't white? See how idiotic that sounds...
Stephen15 wrote: » ILoveYourVibes wrote: » Calling someone racist does not shut down debate. But that Tommy Robinson is racist is not up for debate. People are just calling anyone with an opposing view to someone who is pro open borders a racist rather than actually wanting to debate the point they're trying to detract from the debate and/or they don't have a valid argument against such a person. If TR is such a racist then why does he get so much support from non-whites.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » Calling someone racist does not shut down debate. But that Tommy Robinson is racist is not up for debate.
Odhinn wrote: » How?
stefanovich wrote: » He has non white friends and supporters. How can you call him racist? He has a problem with Islam, which is a religion not a race.
Stephen15 wrote: » It introduces elements of forgein cultures into Irish culture hence making our culture weaker. Tourists don't come here to see African, Middle Eastern or Indian culture they come to see Ireland and they want Irish culture.
Bobblehats wrote: » But you’re not seeing their documentation.....It’s not apparent, you may overhear them in conversation which might lend a clue but not at a glance. Phil and Paul were mixed race. And a rarity; they were a breath of fresh air you could pretty much take it they were irish but then that was back before free travel became so commonplace. Back before people became weary of the impending relentless influx of immigration...
circadian wrote: » Like I've said before I'm mixed race. My grandparents arrived in West Donegal from the Caribbean in the mid 40's. This was facilitated by a priest out there when they needed somewhere to go. They embraced Irish culture and as a result that side of the family play Irish music, are fluent in Irish and are well versed in Irish culture. So, tell me this, how did they make Irish culture weaker? By being black? By liking spicy food and rice?
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » I was in Liverpool last week, went down to China town for a bite to eat. Been to china town in new york and also little italy, been to irish bars in near enough every country i have visited, never seen anyones "culture" weakened by these.
Nekarsulm wrote: » I hope you only watch TG4, and switch it off when imported shows come on. I hope you don't use any electricity, seeing as we import some from the UK, and produce our own with Colombian coal and oil and gas from Arab countries. I hope you have no car, and ride an Irish built Raleigh bicycle ( or better yet, a Rudge!) I hope you only listen to Sean-Nos, and read Irelands Own.. But I doubt it. You are just as big a hypocrite as Gemma.