Spleerbun wrote: » Not disputing anything you say, but just curious then why they never brought this greenboots chap down (among others I would imagine)? He's clearly not buried all the time if people are taking pictures of him and know exactly where he is
Muahahaha wrote: » Bodies on Everest isnt an urban legend but using them as markers is. Its just that the body would be buried in a snow drift and then it wouldnt appear until the following climbing season when the snow melts. From there Sherpas would get the body down for repatriation to their family. As far as rescues go if Sherpas can see the body and get to it then they will recover it. Generally they will, Sherpas have mountaineering ability far above all of their customers paying to get to the top of Everest. I met Kami Rita Sherpa a few years back at Everest Base Camp,he holds the world record for summits of Everest and is currently on 23 with a whole load of other Sherpas not far behind him on the late teens. You dont go up and down Everest 23 times without accident unless you are a world class mountaineer. He definitely is as are all the climbing Sherpas operating on it. Not only are these lads summiting Everest they are also setting up all the ropes and guiding people to the top and rescuing wherever necessary. They exert huge amounts of energy at high altitudes so all the customer has to do is put their gear on and put one foot in front of the other. While summiting Everest is an impressive feat unless you are a world class mountaineer none of it would be possible without the Sherpa support structure that is in place.
Atoms for Peace wrote: » I always presumed that the bodies of those who died we're left on the mountain.
refusetolose wrote: » the sherpas will attempt it if its possible if the price is right
ED E wrote: » Mayyybe I'm a cold heartless SoB but: The family are looking for 750k to attempt to recover him. Moving in the TCD circles he does Im sure they'll get it but it strikes me as a very poor use of public generosity. He engaged in a high risk endeavour and it didnt work out. Thats sad but should the charitable efforts of the public be so heavily expended to recover a cadaver? There'll always be a more needy cause if you choose to look for one but this seems very very far down the charitable book of quantum.
Yurt! wrote: » 75k
refusetolose wrote: » gofundme page says 750k
NIMAN wrote: » If it was just a matter of raising money to get a body retrieved from the mountain, then why is there approx 200 of them still up there?
refusetolose wrote: » well i suppose some of them are impossible to get at or maybe lost others don't have the money i guess maybe others told their families to leave them there if anything happens?
tuxy wrote: » I've head it's fair common to walk past dead bodies on the various routes. It's madness to risk more lives to get a body but of course some sherpas will take it on if the price is right. I would guess most families of the dead don't have the means to start a €750,000 search mission.
Yurt! wrote: » The RTE article states 75k. I think it's important to be accurate, as in typical After Hours fashion, there's a confederation of know-it-alls in full swing trying to frame him and his family as greedy and irresponsible. Stay classy AH.
NIMAN wrote: » It looks like its run by his family, his wife's name is on it. I'm wondering what exactly insurance would cover you for when climbing Everest?
fits wrote: » http://www.alanarnette.com/blog/2019/05/17/too-many-deaths/ Article is not complimentary of the guiding company.
Fr_Dougal wrote: » Interesting documentary about the Sherpas and how the climbs are for them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6pLnf40OM0
fits wrote: » Where is Russell Brice’s company now? They don’t seem to have a presence anymore.
mike_ie wrote: » fits wrote: » http://www.alanarnette.com/blog/2019/05/17/too-many-deaths/ Article is not complimentary of the guiding company. I agree with some of the overarching points in that article, however it very much tells a story of "experienced western guides" ousted by "local Nepalese guides". Considering that virtually every western climber since 1953 has depended on teams of local sherpas to get them to the summit, it paints a very negative and biased picture IMO.
tuxy wrote: » You confirmed my suspicions this go fund me is a fraud! Don't donate.https://www.gofundme.com/seamus-lawless They even have a mistake included saying he went missing on Thursday the 15th of May, there was no Thursday 15th May this year! That along with all the details stating that it is still a rescue mission to find him alive.
mike_ie wrote: » To use a crude but accurate analogy. Have you ever tried to get a chicken fillet out of the back of the freezer, where it's been frozen into the surrounding ice in the freezer? Imagine trying to do the same when:the chicken fillet weighs 80kg (plus another 80kg of ice) You're at the cruising altitude of a 747 Your body is shutting down You're possibly going to die in the attempt Most mountaineers accept that if they expire on the mountain, that's to be their final resting place. And there has been an ongoing campaign to "inter" their bodies on the mountain as of late - climbing teams have lowered bodies over the edge off the main route, or into a crevasse (I'm pretty sure that "Green Boots" body was moved a few years back. But some families have footed the cost of having the bodies of their loved ones repatriated, however, I imagine that is very much dependent on the location of the climber to begin with.
JustAThought wrote: » Rest in Peace to that poor man and God help his poor wife and little family. Lets hope they never read this thread. A life is meant to be more than exististing or subsisting -and we all need a chance to follow our dreams.
