Sligo eye wrote: » A Greenway is not necessary to prevent the railway from being built on. All of the track on the WRC is owned by CIE. The Greenway proposal is the latest in a line of proposals made by that Greenway campaigner in Sligo. He started off wanting broadband lines, then Corrib gas as a riposte to Shell to Sea and now a Bike route. It’s really about stopping the railway. And development. And tourism.
westtip wrote: » My dear chap, I have no wish to stop the railway, others have already done that. For what it is worth me old chum, when it comes to listening to reasoned argument actually old boy, Sligo county council listened to me, not you, which is why they applied for Greenway funding on the closed railway. An Bord Pleanala listened to me not Mayo county council, which is why planning permission is now required for the toy velorail project. hey ho on we go, now make me a promise would you; Please please please, keep taking the pills. I am worried about you:D
Deleted User wrote: » What about the rest of us? What's our motivation?
Sligo eye wrote: » Sam Russell wrote: » Well, actually, there had to be a new alignment, and the old aligment would allow conversion to metro, but the new alignmen is not suitable. The new alignment is because the old one was not protected. Even the bit from the canal to Sandyford had been taken over by adjoining properties and had to be bought back when the Luas was built. At least a greenway prevents this. A Greenway is not necessary to prevent the railway from being built on. All of the track on the WRC is owned by CIE. The Greenway proposal is the latest in a line of proposals made by that Greenway campaigner in Sligo. He started off wanting broadband lines, then Corrib gas as a riposte to Shell to Sea and now a Bike route. It’s really about stopping the railway. And development. And tourism.
Sam Russell wrote: » Well, actually, there had to be a new alignment, and the old aligment would allow conversion to metro, but the new alignmen is not suitable. The new alignment is because the old one was not protected. Even the bit from the canal to Sandyford had been taken over by adjoining properties and had to be bought back when the Luas was built. At least a greenway prevents this.
mayo.mick wrote: » https://www.facebook.com/voteformichaelsmyth/posts/421602291955066
Corca Baiscinn wrote: » You're joking right? Have you checked the tourist numbers on old rail alignments between Waterford and Dungarvan or Westport and Achill? Are you aware that Activity Tourism is the new American Coach Tour as far as Fáilte Ireland is concerned? Dont know who "that Greenway campaigner in Sligo" is but he seems to have rallied the troops as far as Sligo and Quiet Man portions of Greenway are concerned Also you say Greenway not necessary to prevent track being built on but who would pay to fence and police an unused non-revenue generating track. with Greenways the responsibility passes from CIE which given their problems maintaining lines with trains running on them must be a relief
jasper100 wrote: » They are build in spectacular locations though. Tourists won't be flocking to use the Tuam greenway.
mayo.mick wrote: » https://twitter.com/ColinJohnHogan1/status/1127678427480428545
jasper100 wrote: » They are build in spectacular locations though. Tourists won't be flocking to use the Tuam greenway.]
westtip wrote: » Hey you want to see what the IRD in Kiltimagh proposed to Mayo county council as an extension of the idea for the Velorail before it even got up and running - and before it got planning permission ----which it now needs to go and get. Attached letter of December 2016 is one of the best yet, motorised velorail carts to run from Kiltimagh to Charlestown, will they not stop at anything to keep those rusting tracks in place! thankfully even Mayo coco turned this mad cap idea down...see attached letter obtained under FOI
mayo.mick wrote: » Another local candidate in Swinford fully behind the greenway /quote] Six years ago there was just one member of Galway Co Co who championed the greenway. Today 13 out of 14 candidates in the Tuam electoral area are proclaiming as pro greenway. You can't stop an idea who's time has arrived. Even in South Mayo.
Greenway must be made a priority for north Leitrim to attract EU touristshttps://www.leitrimobserver.ie/news/local-news/417069/greenway-must-be-made-a-priority-for-north-leitrim-to-attract-eu-tourists.html North Leitrim needs a flagship project and the Sligo Leitrim Northern Counties Railway (SLNCR) Greenway is the perfect fit. Fine Gael Cllr Sean McDermott has made a passionate plea for Leitrim County Council to prioritise the proposed greenway from Sligo to Enniskillen to promote the rugged landscape of north Leitrim. Cllr McDermott said he didn’t have “sour grapes” but he counted the Shannon Erne canal and the Blueway as massive tourism drivers for south Leitrim. He said the north of the county needs a greenway and he said cycleways and walkways are a massive draw for European tourists. “In Germany they have 70,000kms of cycleways - we are not at the races,” he said, claiming 20 million Europeans are looking for cycle holidays. He announced the greenway “could be a game changer” for the county as well as small towns and villages along it. “They are not coming to Ireland because we don't have enough greenways and the existing greenways are not connected,” he said. “It is well known that to attract tourists for cycling holidays on greenways you would need to have 600km of a greenway for a week of cycling,” he added. Sean believes one of the proposed greenways looping Dublin to Dublin would have great potential of attracting tourists into the north west. That proposed greenway starts in Dublin takes in Galway, Mayo, Sligo, Dromahair, Manorhamilton, Glenfarne, Enniskillen, Kingscourt, Boyne Valley and back to Dublin. He said the SLNCR cycleway would have the added cross-border interest. Cllr Caillian Ellis supported this and noted “we are not doing enough for tourism in Leitrim.” He also said magnificent walks and drives around the county are not being promoted enough. Cllr Felim Gurn said an economic study on the SLNCR greenway found it to be viable and it has support in Northern Ireland. He told council members “The entire project would cost €20m but we are hoping to get over €600,000 in June.” Leitrim County Council said the SLNCR Greenway is a priority for the council. “In order to advance the 58km in Sligo, Leitrim and Cavan an application seeking developmental costs of €635,000 was submitted and we are hopeful of funding in June.” Cllr Gurn said this “is the game changer to keep communities alive.” Cllr Brendan Barry supported this too and said hopefully the walkway could link to the Breffni Way and others in Leitrim. Cllr Padraig Fallon said the project has “massive potential.” Cllr McDermott also welcomed the new self catering accommodation called W8 in Manorhamilton and said if this greenway proceeded more bed nights would be created locally as well as other tourism businesses.
Scarlet42 wrote: » eh .. its a train ... he's talking about a train!
Isambard wrote: » would they need another line to go to Kiltimagh from Charlestown?
Isambard wrote: » it won't last a year even if it is built, for all the reasons that they say a Greenway won't be popular. Thing is, people won't pay to use the Velorail which will involve costs for maintenance Insurance wages etc whereas a Greenway's costs will be negligible or nil.
Sam Russell wrote: » There are so many problems with a Veleorail project on a single track rail line that it just smacks of a joke taken seriously by some politicians. How do the vehicles pass each other? What happens if there is a problem on the track, like a derailment? How do emergency vehicles get to the stranded punters? .
whisky_galore wrote: » The fallacy that greenways don't cost anything to upkeep. Not sold on velorail either, people here will find all sorts of ways to fall off, injure themselves and then run off bawling to their solicitor. That's why venues in the leisure sector are looking at closing down.
Isambard wrote: » the cost per annum would be neglible or nil, same as any other footpath or cyclepath.
Del.Monte wrote: » Righty, the miles of hedges, trees etc. will maintain themselves and the tarmac surfaces will not degrade with the passage of time. I'm sure that there's all sorts of ancillary furniture, fences, gates etc. that will similarly look after themselves.:rolleyes:
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