Deleted User wrote: » 4/5 bus eireann, 5/6 burkes + random others like mountbellew, feda. The traffic queue starts earlier than 5 but wouldn't go on till 7.
Sam Russell wrote: » Yes, a completely pointless bus lane, but I do not go that way at 5pm so perhaps that is when it gets use, but how many buses go that way between 5pm, and 7 pm?
xckjoo wrote: » Couldn't tell you to be honest, but I grew up out that direction and traffic was horrendous at the time (20 years ago at this stage :eek:). You'd regularly have traffic jams going back past Corinthians even then. I'm long gone from the area so can't directly comment on recent years, but they didn't have the bus lanes at the time so removing it isn't going to do much beyond slow the buses back down. There's no benefit in converting them to a second car lane either as the main bottleneck is Claregalway village so you'd just be adding to the bottleneck with an additional merge. You could have 5 lanes coming into the village and you'd still have the same issue.
Ashleigh1986 wrote: » Every discussion on these forums turn into motorist fighting with cyclists fighting with bus users .If I want to drive my car to work I should. If I want to cycle to work I should . If I want to use a bus I should. We are as guilty as the muppets in city hall with our own agendas . The ring road is a minimum of 8 years away . Galway traffic needs correcting today . All city roundabouts taken out and replaced by CCTV operated traffic light system monitored 7am to 10am and 4pm to 7pm. Turn Lough atalia / college road / bohermore/ headford road to one way to allow bus lanes to be put in. No parking whatsoever along foster street/ eglinton street . A zero tolerance approach by traffic wardens / gardai to the ...I'm just parking here for a second brigade as a "pop" into the shop !!!! Pedestrians crossings at Jurys hotel to be looked at . During the summer months these cause chaos with the backup of traffic going back to Lough atalia . Turn mill street / Henry street/ sea road into one way. No right turn at traffic lights when it's not possible to undertake on left .
xckjoo wrote: » Are you talking about the part directly outside of Claregalway? Between the village and Corinthians?
Sam Russell wrote: » Well, travelling from Claregaway into town there is several Kms of outbound bus lane that appears totally misplaced as I have never seen a bus on it. Agreed it is outside the city, but it is on the Tuam Road - as it is known locally - or the N17 in song. I am not mixing it up.
what_traffic wrote: » Agree - we need way more bus and cycle infrastructure.No bus lane on any section of the "Tuam Road"(R336/N83) as that stretch of road is known in the City? Are ya mixing it up with Seamus Quirke Road/Bishop O Donnell Road on the West Side of the City? There is a proposal for inbound bus lane on the N83 (old N17) from Parkmore junction to the N6 for over a decade nowhttps://connachttribune.ie/call-for-action-on-tuam-road-bus-corridor-006/ but Galway City Council have been very very slow to progress it? I wonder why?.............
Sam Russell wrote: » The secret to solving the Galway gridlock is free flow and bus lanes filled with buses going every few minutes. P&R could make a huge difference if it made journey times quicker and more reliable. A €1 for 90 minutes ticket would encourage people to use it. [They have bus lanes, like the Renmore Road one and the Tuam Road one, but not many buses on them].
Deleted User wrote: The development is off the Doughiska road rather than the roundabout. It is on the most frequent bus service and is denser than the surrounding suburban sprawl. What is wrong with it?
Carol25 wrote: People use public transport and would much more regularly if the proper services were there. I might also add it’s extremely pricey for myself and my children and needs to be cheaper to be sustainable. The infrastructure to provide proper services currently isn’t there.
Carol25 wrote: » Oh dear here we go again with poor planning in Galway City Council. Why on earth build this development off a roundabout that is already dysfunctional.https://connachttribune.ie/approval-for-massive-e130m-offices-residential-and-hotel-scheme/
McGiver wrote: » And they can easily be electric or minimum hybrid with almost no pollution at this stage!
Sam Russell wrote: One full bus carries more than 50 cars. A lot of buses can be bought and run for 20 years for €600 million.
Sam Russell wrote: » I doubt the outer ring road will be built inside a decade, if ever. Past planning has been worse than poor, so why do you think the current plan is any good? Cars do not cater for the old, the young, the blind or those cannot drive. Public transport does.
Carol25 wrote: » I agree that planning is very poor, roads and developments were not built correctly, no provisions for the future included, and generally no thought beyond cutting a ribbon and getting a picture in the paper for opening new roads, etc. However I also see how other cities operate, and how they plan and do a proper job initially when it comes to their infrastructure. It’s not just one or the other. Cars or public transport, it’s both catered for. It’s time to plan ahead for once, put in a proper road and develop public transport initiatives on foot of that. If the outer ring road was built, hopefully more areas of the city centre could be developed as car free zones, with designated bus and cycle lanes.
Sam Russell wrote: » There is no one forcing anyone onto public transport. As for nonexistent roads, I think you should look back a bit at the last 50 years, say since Digital Corporation set up in Galway, at all of 'traffic improvements' in Galway. This is not an exhaustive list. Shop street was made one way to facilitate traffic. Eyre Square was reworked to facilitate traffic. Anew road was built joining Prospect Hill with Foster St. along with more one ways to ease traffic. A few relief roads round the docks, and more one way schemes. Quincentenial bridge was built. (but no provision for PT.) This was to ease traffic crossing the Corrib. There were several 'improvements' to the Tuam Road, with the addition and then subtraction of a few roundabouts. The roundabout off the QCB was built and adjusted a few times. Again no attention to the needs of cyclist or PT. Botha Na dTreabh was built and a few roundabouts were put in to ease traffic. They were then taken out to ease traffic. The M6 was built to ease traffic, ending in the Coolagh Roundabout - the scene of many traffic queues at busy time, and even gets its own slot on AA Roadwatch every morning. The M17 and M18 were built to provide easy access for traffic from Tuam into Galway avoiding that traffic block, Claregalway, and the M18 would have all towns south to Gort or even Ennis to quickly access Galway. However, we now know, most traffic goes the old way. So, now Galway needs a new road to solve all its problems the Outer Ring Road. It is time to try the bus option. Maybe if it was a shiny new Luas costing a few hundred million euros it might get popular support. Well, Dublin has two Luas lines, so it would be only right if Galway got at least one. One full bus carries more than 50 cars. A lot of buses can be bought and run for 20 years for €600 million.
[Deleted User] wrote: » You don't need to force anyone to do anything, but mass transit can be the most attractive option by having a high frequency timetable and reliable journey times. This comes with bus lanes The biggest barrier to Galways growth is its roads which have reached capacity for private cars. Only way to increase capacity further is through modal shifts to sustainable transport (bikes, walking, buses etc) You are making the same mistake a lot of folks who like to rant and rave make. You are assuming that there will be no more access, ever again. Access will be there for those who need it but driving a single occupancy car into Galway should be a poor option resulting in poor journey times and high costs. Can be avoided by provision of rapid service park and rides That's not what is being said. Why do we need a bypass to allow kids to cycle on the streets of Galway? Now, take all of what I said and add that I'm a bypass supporter.
Carol25 wrote: » You can’t force people onto a substandard public transport system on substandard roads and practically non existent rail systems.
Carol25 wrote: » How are the businesses and people of Galway supposed to function with even less road capacity and no properly developed infrastructure for public transport offered as an alternative? How is footfall to be affected? How is this a good idea in marketing Galway as a place to do business, live and work in the future?.
Carol25 wrote: » Are the tourists, people of the West Galway and the people of Connemara (which one poster here seems to deem non-existent) not entitled to a proper road and access to the City? Where do the cars/buses, etc, fit? Quincentennial Bridge is full to capacity.
Carol25 wrote: » I could go on but most people on here seem to have decided that for some illogical reason, Galway, who is a city crying out for more roads and infrastructure is the crux of climate change issues, global warming and evolving from cars. This is a very valid debate and I fully support people using more public transport initiatives where viable. However it is not a valid argument for the City in its current state.
Carol25 wrote: » I have seen reports of groups of children cycling to school in the mornings, supervised. This is a fantastic initiative, which would be even less dangerous for the children and adults involved if a ring road/bypass existed for most of the heavy traffic. Freeing up city roads for cycle and bus lanes.
what_traffic wrote: » I have no idea as to why exactly you are quoting my post about the Galway City Council proposals for the Galway City Transportation Strategy?https://connachttribune.ie/citys-bus-car-and-cycle-strategy-to-progress-in-the-autumn-600/ Your post should be a standalone post. It has no relevance at all too what I posted.
McGiver wrote: » This is a big problem in the East. No pedestrian crossings or at wrong places. The whole place was designed for cars not for people. This is the core issue and will require almost a paradigm change.
WillieMason wrote: » Ok since people on here keep saying a new road will result in worst traffic delays in the city surly all we need to do is start closing down roads in the city :pac:
what_traffic wrote: Its not the only FU to public that I see in that satellite photo. Spot the no of proper pedestrian crossings at GMIT?
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