893bet wrote: » Have you renewed your planning?
ECO_Mental wrote: » Hi all, 1. including one Architect who said that he is getting back quotes of around.. €175 sqr/foot.. and that is a standard design house builders finish. 2. Is this the reality at the moment out there?, 3. with these numbers there is no financial sense in building a house these days. 4. Talking to estate agents also the market below 400k is buoyant 5. but anything over is slow to sell (in Cork) so there is good value to be had in buying in the €400k+ range. 6. I know the decision in building your own house sometimes is more than financial but these numbers seem a bit out of control at the moment.
Moustie wrote: » I'm currently looking at buying a site ,cost €60.000 , and I will have around 160.000 to spend... how far that would get me ..
Dudda wrote: » After solicitor fees, land registry fees, architect, planning fees, newspaper notice, site percolation test, structural fees, possible environmental, traffic or flooding reports, development contribution fees, detail drawings, tender report, Irish water connection, ESB poles, access road into site, clearing Japanese knotweed, etc.
mtoutlemonde wrote: » I hope this isn't a silly question...it probably is but here goes. I have just got full planning for my house but since the papers have been sent, I'm thinking that it is too big, do you have to build to the size in your architect drawing ... I wouldn't be changing the house type/layout ... just the size.
vinnie_cork wrote: » Very rough but see link. Factor in heat pumps and PV Panals now as you have to hit A3 and if house is finished after 2020 then add in heat recovery and all the other energy measures. Site complexity- piling, raft foundations, excavation, difficult access. Etc. [snip] And regarding chasing size, yes, it’s new planning. If house looks same style but shrinks 1m all over in dimensions it’s a different house. If it stays same and moved on site as you build it you need a new planning too. Your contributions fees to the authority was calculated on €/perm2 in Cork City it is €70-80 per m2 for council fees. I used advice clients to allow for future easy expansion if budget was tight, layout to add 40m2 to rear in few yrs time. 40m2 to rear is exempt (once it hits the other criteria). People need to stress to their designers their build budgets.
mtoutlemonde wrote: » I told my architect my budget but he returned with a house of 2600 sq.ft. I havn't yet priced the build but people are putting the fear of God telling me it is a massive house. I will be paying all the costs below from savings and the build is specifically from the mortgage. In my naivety I just went with it.
vinnie_cork wrote: » Look, it all depends on location, cost of building (after site cost) varies greatly from Dublin to Kerry. Supply and demand on trades etc. Is phasing anything an option? Like omitting dormer rooms and not alter design and allows for working on after. Your probably going to have to spec down your finishes. If there is more than 1 en-suite bedroom can you live with just one considering you will have a main bathroom and probably a Wc anyhow, might be €5k saving by time all elements add up for an en-suite.
mtoutlemonde wrote: » I'm in the west so architect based it on €105 sq.ft - I took him at his word. Have saved money on site as it's on family land. No dormer rooms. I can definitely manage with one main bathroom.
username2013 wrote: » 1. Are all the prices listed in the thread based on the traditional block build method - ie - cavity wall insulation etc? 2. If so are there any alternatives that are feasible in Ireland with our damp climate? 3. Two main problems I see with house builds in Ireland are: a) very slow to build b) heating in houses here is terrible. 4. Even newish houses with good energy ratings I think are quite poor. 5. Warm if the heating is on, but if not they seem to lose heat very quickly. 6. Surely there are new technologies/techniques that are available now that can mitigate these problems?
BryanF wrote: » 1. Cavity wall insulation is arguably the cheapest option in Ireland primarily because it’s the most common 2. Yes 3. What experience do have in this area? A. Disagree B. Thats a Massive generalization. Depends how well the house is built. And how well the heating system is sized 4. As per 3. 5. Lack of air-tightness and dry-lining are generally the causes of this. 6. Yes. Read around the forum. Use the keywords in point 5.
vinnie_cork wrote: » Air tightness is key for warmth, then add mechanical ventilation, tie in heat pump and underfloor heating. And €105 per ft2 sounds a little low, even if ex vat. But, unless you get a quote, maybe your architect made it a very simple structure with no awkward details and no large steel supports required and standard block work dimensions (ie. walls in multiple of 450mm lengths to minimise material waste). I was talking to a Kerry builder 2 weeks ago for feelers on my budget and he said it’s all down to the bill of quantities but a crude cost is his area works out €1500/m2 or €138/ft2 for builders finish. I’m about to start a renovation project to an existing house and worrying my €110 p/ft2 budget is low as I want to use new energy technologies and achieve A3 status from G. And with that services are there and connected and building structure.
dellas1979 wrote: » In the middle of a build. Yea its quite unbelievable all the things/roles/money that go into a build. The amount of money is unbelievable. Its currently impossible to get builders/trades on site. This is not a regulated game (I dont mean materials or building standards, I mean youve no recourse as to how slow they go/off on other sites). And it is a game. If you want to play a game of "will the builder show up today/answer my unanswered calls", off you go. If you are not dead set on building, I wouldnt. (Edit: You can probably tell am thick at/fed up with my builder!)
ECO_Mental wrote: » I'm planning to :
BryanF wrote: » Are you planning to have a main contractor, turn key? What are your prices coming in at?
NSAman wrote: » Ok I have bought a house on a few acres. I am not tearing it down completely, it is an old home 1900 or so. What I would like to do is build around the original. It is based in the west of Ireland and has all the services already in place... I do not want a huge house..something around 1500 sq feet... I know it is "how long is a piece of string" but should 150,000 get me there?
fergus1001 wrote: » I have been onto the build cost estimator online and it's telling me 240-260 k for a 2200 sq foot house, but I'm now seeing that build costs are shooting up which worries me ! how much would you save if you just did kitchen/living and bedroom to complete Finnish and then done the rest yourself ?
BryanF wrote: » You haven’t given enough info Assuming mortgage, the bank will want the place finished.
alan partridge aha wrote: » Build house in north Wexford 2011. 2450sq feet. Block Walls 150mm cavity pumped and 50mm insulated slab. 2 banks of tube solar panels Ufh downstairs, rads upstairs oil condenser burner Breton slab Pvc double glazed. Palladio doors front and back. Own well and biocyle unit. €6000 paid to council. €10000 for kitchen. All tiling, sanitary ware, furniture, painting, stove, electrical items for kitchen and entertainment and carpets/laminate floors. Did it direct labour so it involves trusting people especially as I'm no expert. From opening site (no cost) to moving in €214000.
