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Why do Irish people support English teams?

DEFTLEFTHAND

I was born and raised in Tipperary. My mother kept the home when Dad worked.

Dad worked in the merchant navy for yrs and loved soccer.

He lived in Inchicore when I was born. He was an officer on the Holyhead ferry.

We used to go to Richmond Park. Some of my earliest memomories in life are of him swearing and getting angry with me up on his lap.

He was a very emotive man, but very loving.

I just could never get why most of Dublin and the rest of the country supported the English league .

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D14Rugby

Greyfox wrote: »

How is it pathetic when every LOI fan knows the English championship is a far superior league to anything Ireland will ever have? What makes you think anybody has the right to tell someone what they should be doing with there free time? What is someone from Tallaght doesnt like the way some Shamrock rovers fans cause trouble after a match?

Some LOI teams actually play better football than Championship teams that just have more money so that's why players go there even though its actually not that good football. This is pretty well established, and goes further to prove the point that if irish people gave their local teams the support they deserve every aspect or Irish football including the national team would improve.
For every time Rovers fans have caused trouble at a match there's probably 6/7 times fans of popular English teams have.

D14Rugby

8-10 wrote: »

Yes, or in person, read my post. I doubt most LOI fans get to see every minute of every game every season. I get that either in person or on tv and feel privileged for that to be the case.

I’d hate to miss a game, when it does happen on occasion I can download the full game

Don't think I've missed a minute of Rovers this season. Fairly easy to find a stream of a game, may not hove sound or good picture quality but I can get a stream of some sort if I'm not at a game.

blade1

D14Rugby wrote: »

if irish people gave their local teams the support they deserve

The team's do get the support they deserve.

Kermit.de.frog

blade1 wrote: »

The team's do get the support they deserve.

Because their sh!te?

The people who REFUSE to support the LOI and would rather help English teams and cities have some absolute cheek to criticise the standard of their own league.

No support, no quality.

But keep being the imbecile that Manchurians and Liverpudlians laugh at as they rake it in and ponder - "why the fcuk do so many Irish support us"?

It's embarrassing and pathetic.

To the other poster:

It is 100% a post colonial mentality.

"They are fundamentally better and bigger than us and thus everything is just better and we MUST support their teams and **** over our own, we'll never be good enough...blah, blah, blah"

RobMc59

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Because their sh!te?

The people who REFUSE to support the LOI and would rather help English teams and cities have some absolute cheek to criticise the standard of their own league.

No support, no quality.

But keep being the imbecile that Manchurians and Liverpudlians laugh at as they rake it in and ponder - why the fcuk do so many Irish support us?

It's embarrassing and pathetic.

I disagree ,Liverpool and Everton supporters consider Irish supporters the same as themselves.

blade1

Seems like a lot of begrudery from LOI fans here.

Kermit.de.frog

RobMc59 wrote: »

I disagree ,Liverpool and Everton supporters consider Irish supporters the same as themselves.

You are wired to the moon if you seriously believe that.

They are laughing at you. They take your money and "support". They don't give a damn beyond that.

RobMc59

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

You are wired to the moon if you seriously believe that.

They are laughing at you. They take your money and "support". They don't give a damn beyond that.

I live on Merseyside and have supported Everton all my life.

blade1

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

You are wired to the moon if you seriously believe that.

They are laughing at you. They take your money and "support". They don't give a damn beyond that.

Just look at the Sean Cox situation.
Yeah nobody gave a damn about him :rolleyes:

Kermit.de.frog

RobMc59 wrote: »

I live on Merseyside and have supported Everton all my life.

Well then your commentary here is irrelevant. You live there. So you support your local team or one in your city.

RobMc59

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Well then your commentary here is irrelevant. You live there. So you support your local team or one in your city.

I live in the area and go to watch football , i know from experience that Irish supporters are not considered"foreign "by Everton and Liverpool supporters.
I have an interest in gaa and nfl but using your formula I shouldn't as they're not local to me.

tototoe

Ill never understand this either tbh, but people can support whoever they like. However, how premiership/english soccer is allowed dominate the media in ireland to the extent it does is a complete mystery to me. I know its popular but the way newstalk and todayfm, and rte to an extent treat it like the most important thing in news baffles me. I can kind of understsnd it for the european stuff, kind of, but if people want to hear about the premiership feic off to sky or the bbc. Its not like most of the country dont have access to uk channels.

[Deleted User]

blade1 wrote: »

Seems like a lot of begrudery from LOI fans here.

I used to somewhat of a begrudger to be very frank. Nowadays, I honestly think it's those who don't go to games week in and week out are the ones that are missing out. I honestly mean that. I'm glad attendances are on the rise over here. Seeing absolute worldies going in just mere feet from you is class. Potentially seeing the next James McClean coming through is exciting. The culture of doing an away day or seeing all the familiar lads and lassies for a big home Derby and organising and participating in displays are things that a tv can't bring you.

There's a certain draw in the grittiness that makes the League of Ireland what it is, it's the last of a dying breed. It's my sanitised, it's a bit chaotic but that's what we love. We get seasoned football people from all across the UK and Europe at Bohs matches every week because the secret is out among a lot of people. They're always made to feel welcome and it's because they are. If you haven't been before or in a few years, you'll be made to feel welcome if you get chatting to people too I'd wager.

You can have both. Have your English team and an LOI team, most of us do that go!

8-10

D14Rugby wrote: »

Don't think I've missed a minute of Rovers this season. Fairly easy to find a stream of a game, may not hove sound or good picture quality but I can get a stream of some sort if I'm not at a game.

Fair enough, might be different for Rovers, my local team is first division and FotMob updates and twitter is the only way I can follow away games

Unless there's a streaming option I'm completely unaware of....??

vkus6mt3y8zg2q

[or seeing all the familiar lads and lassies for a big home Derby and organising and participating in displays]

LOL

Greyfox

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

But keep being the imbecile that Manchurians and Liverpudlians laugh at as they rake it in and ponder - "why the fcuk do so many Irish support us"?

It's embarrassing and pathetic.

Real fans of a club know a club needs as many supporters as it can get and they don't care what country the fans are from, the more fans the more money the club get. If a few thousand americans were to start following Rovers that would be a good day for the club.

Achasanai

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

They are laughing at you. They take your money and "support". They don't give a damn beyond that.

Don't be worrying about what others think. If you enjoy supporting Liverpool/Man United/Everton/Accrington Stanley then do it. If you enjoy supporting Bohs don't worry about whether the diehards will welcome you to Dalymount or not.

OldMrBrennan83

Omackeral wrote: »

I used to somewhat of a begrudger to be very frank. Nowadays, I honestly think it's those who don't go to games week in and week out are the ones that are missing out. I honestly mean that. I'm glad attendances are on the rise over here. Seeing absolute worldies going in just mere feet from you is class. Potentially seeing the next James McClean coming through is exciting. The culture of doing an away day or seeing all the familiar lads and lassies for a big home Derby and organising and participating in displays are things that a tv can't bring you.

There's a certain draw in the grittiness that makes the League of Ireland what it is, it's the last of a dying breed. It's my sanitised, it's a bit chaotic but that's what we love. We get seasoned football people from all across the UK and Europe at Bohs matches every week because the secret is out among a lot of people. They're always made to feel welcome and it's because they are. If you haven't been before or in a few years, you'll be made to feel welcome if you get chatting to people too I'd wager.

You can have both. Have your English team and an LOI team, most of us do that go!

I've argued this with you (too) many times but you were right all along.

[Deleted User]

Zain Raspy Tapir wrote: »

[or seeing all the familiar lads and lassies for a big home Derby and organising and participating in displays]

LOL

Great contribution. Fantastic insights.

[Deleted User]

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

I've argued this with you (too) many times but you were right all along.

Do you mean that you gave going to a game a chance? Who did You go to see? How was it? Were you sneered at?

Pkiernan

RobMc59 wrote: »

I live on Merseyside and have supported Everton all my life.

That's a double tragedy. Sorry for your troubles.

NIMAN

Some excitement around Ireland today with the culmination of the English football league!

OldMrBrennan83

NIMAN wrote: »

Some excitement around Ireland today with the culmination of the English football league!

The Munster hurling starts, which is a real reason to get excited.

[Deleted User]

NIMAN wrote: »

Some excitement around Ireland today with the culmination of the English football league!

Man United vs Liverpool is the All-Ireland final

rob316

Meh could be worse you could support Celtic. I'd rather watch Sunday league

NIMAN

Bar owners will love today, great finish to the EPL.

Packed.

8-10

NIMAN wrote: »

Bar owners will love today, great finish to the EPL.

Packed.

Yeah been a while since there was a last day like this one.

trashcan

NIMAN wrote: »

Bar owners will love today, great finish to the EPL.

Packed.

I used to have Sky Sports until a couple of years ago (always second place to supporting Pats though) Haven't "followed" an English team since I was a child in the seventies/early eighties - Man City incidentally. I' ll probably catch the highlights on MOTD, but I'm not a bit bothered about missing the games live, wouldn't go out to watch. I've honestly never missed Sky since I ditched it. I have BT sport - because I wanted Eir sport for the LOI matches and it was included, but the amount of games I watch live on it is minuscule, maybe 1 or 2 a season.

Pats v Bohs next weekend though... now you're talking.

[Deleted User]

trashcan wrote: »

Pats v Bohs next weekend though... now you're talking.

Away end is a dead cert to sell out. Bohs fans have been told not travel without a ticket. It'll be a great atmosphere in a rickety old-school ground, just the way I like it.
Football doesnt have to be over for the summer just because the EPL is done.

SHOVELLER

Greyfox wrote: »

How is it pathetic when every LOI fan knows the English championship is a far superior league to anything Ireland will ever have? What makes you think anybody has the right to tell someone what they should be doing with there free time? What is someone from Tallaght doesnt like the way some Shamrock rovers fans cause trouble after a match?

The lack of knowledge here speaks volumes.

blade1 wrote: »

Seems like a lot of begrudery from LOI fans here.

Maybe but we have a product that has enormous potential yet a vast majority refuse to support it. If Ireland were a normal football country with a culture clubs from our league would be regulars in European competition group stages IMO.

blade1 wrote: »

Just look at the Sean Cox situation.
Yeah nobody gave a damn about him :rolleyes:

Honestly that whole situation is baffling. While nobody deserves that to happen at any time if you "support" an english club abroad there is an expectation that trouble will follow. Then to have our national stadium hold a fundraising game on the SAME night as a round of domestic fixtures shows the complete lack of respect and fundamental understanding the FAI have for football.