KikiLaRue wrote: » Do you have any ideas for how to make things better? Pointing out the problems is the easy part, there’s no point forming a party unless you’ve got well thought through, viable solutions.
EmmetSpiceland wrote: » It’s worked well enough for the far left ones.
Shefwedfan wrote: » So new day, same issues Local children play area closing because it can't get insurance Car insurance for myself has come in and sky rocketed 3 billion on firing out broadband to a few homes I dont know what current figure is for a hospital No resolution or plan for housing issue They call green crisis and 6,yes 6, of them are in the bloody Dail HSE is a mess Is it time people stood together and created a new political party? Just general off the street people and decide to run and get the locals to support. at the moment we have Fine Gael: Dont know how long in power but they have done f**k all. Project after project is a disaster. Fine Fail: no better that the other clowns Labour: are they even around anymore? useless when they got some power Green party:disaster, local guy posting about how he is supporting building a road...not very green People before Profit: idiots.... Sine Fein: no idea what they are doing, best part of f**k all. The question is would the Irish people do it? if you talk in Europe and this was going on in any other country they place would burning with riots etc. Governments thrown out. In Ireland we just keep going and let them do what they want.... Is it time to pull together and create our own party? dump the current lot and leave them in the last century?
BeerWolf wrote: » You lost my vote. I want broadband, thanks.
Shefwedfan wrote: » Is it time to pull together and create our own party? dump the current lot and leave them in the last century?
paw patrol wrote: » I often despair at elections and referendums at the lack of backbone the irish masses have to make real change. The odd time you get a left field person elected but its rare. Then we moan about the state of the place - we get the politicians we deserve
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » Broadband to a few homes? People just dismiss anything theses days to have a pop at the government. Populist nonsense.
paw patrol wrote: » i admire your spirit OP but given the polls in Dublin (for example) have Francis of the lost emails Fitzgerald of FG and Barry Andrews of FF riding high in the MEP polls I suspect (very sadly) that the people you think will follow you are happy with the status quo. I often despair at elections and referendums at the lack of backbone the irish masses have to make real change. The odd time you get a left field person elected but its rare. Then we moan about the state of the place - we get the politicians we deserve
Berties_Horse wrote: » A dubious premise, I hereby resign my membership.
Shefwedfan wrote: » So what is nonsense?
Shefwedfan wrote: » I dont see a politician from one year to the next.
The Rape of Lucretia wrote: » Nor should you. If you meet them, then they arent where they should be - governing. Of course you will have the crazies of Kerry electing and seeing the likes of the pantomine joke candidates like the Healy-Raes all the time at every funeral, ribbon cut, and U15 football game shaking hands whether people want to with them or not. But thats not doing anything to improve the country, thats just being gombeens.
KikiLaRue wrote: » In my lifetime we’ve used referenda to introduce divorce, legalise gay marriage and abortion, and this month we’ll most likely vote to make divorce easier. I take your point to a degree about elections, but not referenda.
JohnnyFlash wrote: » People vote for FF and FG because they are the two parties who have ruled since the foundation of the State, and we live in one of the fairest, wealthiest, and safest countries in the world. They don’t want to vote in large numbers for far left or far right nutjobs.I wouldn’t underestimate the populace at all. Their ability to reject extremism is to be admired.
KikiLaRue wrote: » Most of your post tbh. Ooh, THREE televisions streaming. I’m sure that will impress global companies when we’re trying to convince them to invest outside of Dublin.
dxhound2005 wrote: » There are probably over 20 parties at present, and dozens more which have come and gone over the years. Why would another one change anything?
Shefwedfan wrote: » Most of those parties have been XYZ who didn't get a seat with FF/FG so decided to go solo...nothing new, just rehash what they seen in a FF/FG meeting and try to look good.....
The Rape of Lucretia wrote: » Of course you will have the crazies of Kerry electing and seeing the likes of the pantomine joke candidates like the Healy-Raes all the time at every funeral, ribbon cut, and U15 football game shaking hands whether people want to with them or not. But thats not doing anything to improve the country, thats just being gombeens.
Igotadose wrote: » I live in West Kerry and loath the healy-rae's. However, longer-term residents adore them. Not for their right-wing pro-Catholic Church politics. Because if you phone them, they ring you back. If your road needs a repair and the county council can't get to it, you call Michael Healy-Rae's office, and on his way to work in a few days, he phones you from the car and dispatches an underling to deal with it. There are way too many of these Healy-Raes in politics, they're all over the county council and so on, but you have to respect how they do their jobs. They're hands-on, good or bad. They should just stfu about climate, Trump, religion, etc. and keep the roads repaired, the bridges replaced, fiber optic run out to rural areas, etc.
dxhound2005 wrote: » Here is an idea which hasn't been tried before. In theory national politicians should be the top of the food chain in the public service. But compared to private business their wages are a pittance. How about paying the Taoiseach €2 million a year, Ministers 1.5 and TD's 1 million. That could attract the sort of talent which would change the country for the better?
