anewme wrote: » I’m slowly switching from animal products. I don’t eat meat anymore but still eat fish currently so far from vegan. My friend has rescue hens, so I use those eggs only.
auspicious wrote: » Hens required a lot of calcium to produce their eggs. If they are lacking, they should be given a fortified feed. It can take a toll on their bones. You can also feed the crushed and baked shells back to them.
anewme wrote: » When he git then, they had been in a battery farm, and they were scaldy yokes with no feathers, now they are beautiful, cheeky with a personality of their own. He keeps sheep too, they eventually go to market. But they have a good life in the interim. I think if I knew all animals were treated like that, I might not have given up meat, or maybe not, but there’s too many questions over quality of produce, that it’s a race to the bottom. How can a chicken retail for 2.99, shortcuts have been taken somewhere?When I did eat meat, I used to buy my Xmas Turkey from a local free range farm. The farmer told me he paid more for the chicks, than a frozen turkey retailed for.
anewme wrote: » When he git then, they had been in a battery farm, and they were scaldy yokes with no feathers, now they are beautiful, cheeky with a personality of their own. He keeps sheep too, they eventually go to market. But they have a good life in the interim. I think if I knew all animals were treated like that, I might not have given up meat, or maybe not, but there’s too many questions over quality of produce, that it’s a race to the bottom. How can a chicken retail for 2.99, shortcuts have been taken somewhere? When I did eat meat, I used to buy my Xmas Turkey from a local free range farm. The farmer told me he paid more for the chicks, than a frozen turkey retailed for.
auspicious wrote: » My earlier post regarding calcium (maybe your friend already knew this idk) was some advice for the welfare of the animals if it's insisted upon, and only if, consuming the eggs of the rescued birds.As a vegan I am not about animal welfare. I see welfare as a means to make consumers more comfortable consuming animal products. Even though the hens were rescued and enjoy a nice life now, taking the eggs to eat just continues the purpose they were bred for. It is still benefiting from the initial harm.
Yer Da sells Avon wrote: » People who get annoyed about the increasing popularity of vegetarianism/veganism are every bit as tiresome as militant vegans.
Still waters wrote: » It's amusing to read the farmers on the farming forum complaining about the rise in vegetarians, youd think they were dependent on every human alive eating 3 steaks a day when in reality blaming the few vegetarians for their problems is like blaming a turf fire in connemara on global warming In truth we would probably all be a lot healthier if we cut down the amount of meat and ate more veg and fruit Farming a small farm here so I'm all for more money for meat but I don't see a healthy future in the mass production of animals for the slaughter houses
Pkiernan wrote: » It's mostly the socially retarded and those on the lower end of the IQ scale that slag off veggies and vegans.
auspicious wrote: » Personally I only take veg1 supplement from the Vegan Soceity. It contains the D3, B12, and iodine I need regularly, amongst others. I get my omega 3 from walnuts, kidney beans, chia seeds, flax seeds and many other sources. Selenium from brazil nuts, chia seeds, brown rice etc. You can also get B12 from fortified foods and nooch. 70% of Europeans and infants worldwide are deficient in Vit D. 2 billion people are deficient in iodine worldwide. Ireland is one of the most selenium deficient countries in the world. Ruminants obtain B12 from anaerobic bateria in soil but to properly synthesize it they require cobalt supplements as many soils are low in it. Cobalt B12 supplements for cattle include selenium amongst others. Adults over the age of 50 who have atrophic gastritis (their stomach isn’t making as much acid) may not absorb B12 as well. This accounts for the majority of deficiency in older adults. Because atrophic gastritis may be relatively common, a B12 supplement or fortified foods are recommended by the Institute of Medicine for all adults over age 50, regardless of diet. - nutritionstudies.org
silverharp wrote: » It just add another level of complication , if there were 2 fruits that contained mince beef and eggs they would be super foods in the vegan world. Here is the thing, its an experiment , there aren't 3 generations of cradle to grave vegans. Most vegans drift in an out in adulthood , had mothers that weren't vegan.
auspicious wrote: » Eggs for example, if they are not even allowed to be labelled healthy by regulatory bodies today because of their high levels of saturated fat and especially cholesterol then I'm sure the fruit hypothesis doesn't work.There's good anecdotal evidence of happy healthy newborn vegan babies.The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics the worlds largest organisation of professionals holding undergraduate and advanced degrees in nutrition and dietetics and includes many many meat eaters I'm sure say a well planned and balanced vegan diet is adequate for all stages of life.
Eggs and your diet Eggs are nutritious – they're a source of: protein vitamin D vitamin Avitamin B2 vitamin B12 folate iodine How many eggs is it safe to eat? There is no recommended limit on how many eggs people should eat. Eggs can be enjoyed as part of a healthy, balanced diet, but it's best to cook them without adding salt or fat. For example: boiled or poached, without added salt scrambled without butter and using low-fat milk instead of cream Eggs and cholesterol Although eggs contain some cholesterol, the amount of saturated fat we eat has more of an effect on the amount of cholesterol in our blood than the cholesterol we get from eating eggs.
dodderangler wrote: » Couldn’t care what they do. You want to be vegan fine. No problem I won’t judge. But what the fück gives them the right to judge me on what I eat? That’s my biggest problem with them.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » You don't care what they do but you have a big problem with them.
B0jangles wrote: » I'm neither a vegetarian or a vegan but even I've noticed the crazy defensiveness/aggression some posters here have whenever the topic comes up. Vegans and vegetarians aren't come up to you and slap the burger out of your hands; you're totally free to eat as much meat and dairy as you want. At the same time, no-one is obliged to buy your produce just because you happen to be a meat/dairy farmer. No-one owes you a living.
dodderangler wrote: » And what about us who hunt our own meat. According to vegans we are the worst. Satan I was called. And a homicidal maniac. Best one was I am a future murderer.
Deebles McBeebles wrote: » Seems a fitting place to post this.https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/news/farming-news/ispca-calls-for-immediate-suspension-of-calf-exports-38087589.html
Thelonious Monk wrote: » That is just heartbreaking. To think the poor things are shipped around like that to be treated horribly and slaughtered for veal. Who the f*ck would even want to eat veal?
dodderangler wrote: » So you’re against guns and against eating meat. Wow you sound like loads of fun at a party. Guess we can serve pigs in blankets even though it’s dead meat at least it’s gonna be warm and cosy.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » And people keep saying it's the vegans who are the ones acting up. From what I see it's meat eaters who have a problem with other people's diets, not vegetarians and vegans.
dodderangler wrote: » Yeah because meat eaters are out there protesting and screaming at people. Interesting
Deebles McBeebles wrote: » And you like guns in teachers hands and animal cruelty? Shock horror. No need to bring my views in from other threads because you cant come up with a coherent argument for either. Your posts are ridiculous at best.
dodderangler wrote: » Who said I like animal cruelty. Show me where I said that?? Because not once didn’t I say it. And yes I approve of it. If it stop soon some idiot with a gun shooting up a school then yes give the teachers protection to stop them. Seriously you have me grinning every time you reply. It’s one laugh after another. Lack off meat In your diet may be the result of your posts being hysterical
