Johnnyhpipe wrote: » From “bloggers” to billboards to PETA giving out to me for drinking milk and “taking babies away from their mothers”... I was in McDonalds earlier tucking into a big mac and a load of nuggets and saw their new ‘veggie happy meal’... When did this rise of veggie/veganism start? Why did it start? Some people have tried to convince me to go vegetarian, or at least cut down on meat consumption. I haven’t heard a decent argument as to why I should apart from some doomsday videos on youtube.. Am I really a bad boy for eating meat? All sounds like a load of bollocks to me.
RobertKK wrote: » We need a campaign to stop lions, cheetahs, leopards and so on from eating the other animals. Those nature programs from places like the Serengeti are horror shows, and those crocodiles... .
wakka12 wrote: » Im not vegetarian even but surely not killing innocent animals unnecessarily for your dinner is a convincing argument. I think you just dont want to believe there is a convincing argument There is convincing health benefitshttps://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324869.php and there are convincing benefits for the environment if humans were to adapt vegetarian lifestyles, or even jusr reduce meat consumption Anyway you are ironically the one making a thread about how annoying vegans are and apparently how much trouble they give you for eating meant, many similar threads have been made recently, and funnily enough Ive yet to see an after hours thread started by a vegetarian or vegan going out of their way to tell people off for eating animal products
Unearthly wrote: » Let's base our ethics and morality on wild animals
is_that_so wrote: » Let's base it on not bashing people for what they eat and the alleged supreme benefits of one form of diet over another!
Unearthly wrote: » Nothing to do with the point I was making. I was responding to a lowest common denominator argument that the likes of the Sun/Daily Mail/Piers Morgan use
Thelonious Monk wrote: » The only ones who get "bashed" are vegans and vegetarians for not eating animals!
is_that_so wrote: » Oh it really depends who you talk to. While I think the OP is a tad extreme those vegan posters are a very good example of this.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » I actually think they serve a purpose. It might make people think twice about where they are getting their meat from and the horrific conditions factory animals put up with during their miserable existence.
is_that_so wrote: » They are about as effective as the ones that tell smokers to give up. I'm more inclined to think that more positive versions promoting such causes are better pitches.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Nearly everyone used to smoke 40 years ago or so, not any more
Unearthly wrote: » Which way do you propose? On today alone on boards I have been told. - I am to lie about being a vegan as no one wants to know - posters don't work - activism on the street is not wanted Not many options left but interested how to promote veganism while circumventing the above 3 ways
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Well don't promote it, just let people eat what they want
is_that_so wrote: » It's really not up to me to offer you answers. People can choose to eat as they wish but they are not arbiters on any other person's food choices.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » You'll have a hard time getting Irish people to give up their pork breakfast and reconstituted dutch factory chicken fillet rolls for lunch
is_that_so wrote: » There are "convincing arguments" for anything you want to be convinced about. The innocent animal pitch is a an effort to guilt people into examining what they eat. It is is far more useful to everyone to point out the downsides. Food and what we eat is a choice. Not doing so well, for our body can have consequences as can the million and one other activities and events that we meet in our lives. That last line suggests you're disappointed nobody has!
wakka12 wrote: » What do you mean 'pitch' ? They are innocent animals we breed and kill early on in their life to be slaughtered, no two ways about seeing this, we are ending their lives for our dinner when its completely unnecessary due to how many other types of nutritious plant foods available which could sustain our diets. Now Im not particularly against that aspect, circle of life and all that(though I do limit my meat intake for environmental and health reasons). But for god sake, I can recognise that its a convincing argument
Yer Da sells Avon wrote: » People who get annoyed about the increasing popularity of vegetarianism/veganism are every bit as tiresome as militant vegans.
wakka12 wrote: » Im not vegetarian even but surely not killing innocent animals unnecessarily for your dinner is a convincing argument. I think you just dont want to believe there is a convincing argument.There is convincing health benefitshttps://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324869.phpand there are convincing benefits for the environment if humans were to adapt vegetarian lifestyles, or even jusr reduce meat consumption. Anyway you are ironically the one making a thread about how annoying vegans are and apparently how much trouble they give you for eating meant, many similar threads have been made recently, and funnily enough Ive yet to see an after hours thread started by a vegetarian or vegan going out of their way to tell people off for eating animal products
gozunda wrote: » Then there the bs billboard marking those out involved in food production as betrayers and abusers. You couldn't make this ****e up tbh.
The Satanist wrote: » Is this made up too?https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/calves-beaten-hit-video-footage-violence-animals-live-exports-europe-a8899631.html
archer22 wrote: » Its common, and the treatment of live exports when they arrive in the Middle East is beyond horrific.There was a programme about it on TG4 a few months ago, they showed some really stomach churning footage.
