ED E wrote: » ... White on front between X and X off the ground. Red on rear between X and X off the ground. Directional indicators in amber with similar positional requirements.
beauf wrote: » It's not a legal requirement. So by proper you mean basically something you've made up. I don't disagree that some lights need to be better regulated. But it's not correct to call it improper or incorrect if they meet the current requirements.
beauf wrote: » Again it's just stuff you've made up. While some of it might be reasonable some of it is not. Can't really claim something doesn't meet the standard for lights when there is no standard for it .
ED E wrote: » beauf wrote: » Again it's just stuff you've made up. While some of it might be reasonable some of it is not. Can't really claim something doesn't meet the standard for lights when there is no standard for it . No, its not. Directive 2009/67/EC of the European Parliament.
prinzeugen wrote: » beauf wrote: » It's not a legal requirement. So by proper you mean basically something you've made up. I don't disagree that some lights need to be better regulated. But it's not correct to call it improper or incorrect if they meet the current requirements. The Garda will pull you for incorrect or distracting lighting though. I witnessed a cyclist getting pulled on Camden St in early December that had one of those LED lights that give a camera flash every second. Aimed up not down so was blinding everyone near it. Scooter type MPVs will need to meet minimum Irish standards for a MPV. They need a proper headlight. A LED light for a cycle wont cut it regardless of how bright it is.
beauf wrote: » That's for motor bikes and cars etc.... If the scooters get legalised they will be similar to electric bicycles to which these specific rules do not apply.
beauf wrote: » ... If the scooters get legalised they will be similar to electric bicycles to which these specific rules do not apply.
beauf wrote: » I'll do it again for the hard of reading... beauf wrote: » ... If the scooters get legalised they will be similar to electric bicycles to which these specific rules do not apply. It was mentioned that a cyclist's was stopped for lights. Also about the correct cycling lights. I'm asking for about the fourth time where are the requirements for a bicycle.
griffdaddy wrote: » I don't have a link to hand but that quote from Charlie Flanagan yesterday was promising. He basically said they seem like a good idea and that he'd be talking to minister Ross about it this week or next. The other possibility is that the EU introduce a micromobility directive or regulation and Ireland is forced to cop the fck on. That would also be a good outcome.
punisher5112 wrote: » Once insured, licence, correct lightingmeeting a required set of minimum standards etc which nobody will have on a bicycle or a battery scooter.
silverharp wrote: » Garda stops Electric Unicycle Scooter in Dublin, funny bit, the guy tells the garda that he is filming him, and the garda says you cant GDPR , what a muppet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xIsNi1HUTg
rubadub wrote: » from the cycling forum
E-scooter business says sales down ‘over 50%’ due to confusion over legality Department of Transport says e-scooters not allowed on public roads, fines may be issued ...When asked about the legality of e-scooters that require a degree of physical propulsion before a motor can start, a spokesman for the Department of Transport compared e-scooters to a certain category of e-bicycles. The spokesman said some e-bikes “require continuous effort on the part of the cyclist [and] are considered to be pedal cycles” because “the engine is not the means of propulsion, but an aid to the user”. Other e-bicycles “that can be exclusively propelled by the motor are classified in EU law as low-performance mopeds” and are subject to Road Traffic legislation, with the user obliged to have tax, insurance and an appropriate driving licence where the vehicle is to be used in a public place. He said e-scooters, similar to pedal-assisted cycles, “do not require continuous effort on the part of the user, and are therefore considered to be mechanically propelled vehicles”.
quarryman wrote: » Fair play to the contributors on this thread that do not own a scooter yet have managed to ruin the discussion. On the actual topic of scooters: I picked up a Kugoo S1 last week. I thought it was going to be an exact copy of my Zoom Stryder but it’s definitely inferior. It’s still ok but the Zoom is much better in terms of build quality.
antodeco wrote: » What was the price difference between both? I have the S1, and replaced rear wheel with a pnuematic tyre, loosened the rear suspension and greased the front suspension. I find it's more than suitable for my needs, as it was cheaper than all the other eScooters out there!
quarryman wrote: » S1 was €300 Zoom was €700 Can you tell me where you bought the pneumatic tyre and also how you loosened and greased the suspension?
quarryman wrote: » Fair play to the contributors on this thread that do not own a scooter yet have managed to ruin the discussion. ...
antodeco wrote: » I think for less than half the price, its certainly worth the value! ...
beauf wrote: » What's the difference in weight.
quarryman wrote: » ... I picked up a Kugoo S1 last week. I thought it was going to be an exact copy of my Zoom Stryder but it’s definitely inferior. It’s still ok but the Zoom is much better in terms of build quality.
. The investigators identified 271 individuals with potential e-scooter-related injury incidents during the study period last fall; of those, 190 confirmed an e-scooter riding-related injury. Most accidents occurred on streets. Most riders were men. Among the injured, 48% suffered a fracture, laceration or abrasion to the head; 70% injured upper limbs; and 55% injured lower limbs. Of the 190 riders, 35% suffered some type of fracture. ... The CDC’s Laurel Harduar Morano said, “We know we’re missing cases of injuries. These are the injuries severe enough to require emergency medical care.”
