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lou91

Never posted on this forum before, but it seems a bit strange that there's no off-topic/general conversation thread, especially if meet ups take place. It could be a good addition, considering how a lot of the topics here are a bit heavy...

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robyntmorton

<rant>
Is there any service in the HSE where a psychiatrist sending a letter saying effectively "we'll get to you eventually" is acceptable? That's the letter I got today.

We can't give you an appointment. You're (big number) on a waiting list. We'll be in touch.

If it was for any other aspect of mental health it would be grand, but in healthcare for transgender patients it is apparently par for the course.

I've already had one consultant give a diagnosis of gender dysphoria. Do I now have to wait an unspecified time for another to say "yeah, I agree" before anything else happens? When that happens do I go to the back of the next doctor's waiting list, and get to wait another long time to be seen? Or is there joined up thinking that I can be seen by the endocrinologist at the same time?

Is it any wonder that trans* patients have such issues with mental health and suicide, that it takes years to start treating them for their diagnosed condition? A condition that with adequate sympathetic treatment can massively improve their physical and mental health?

I'm not blaming the doctors involved though. They are working within a system. That system is fu**ed up though.
</rant>
And breathe...

Ten of Swords

A video has surfaced on Youtube today of Russian Air Cadets at the Ulyanovsk Institute of Civil Aviation stripping down to their underwear and producing a very provocative video to the tune of Benny Benassi - Satisfaction

Anyway long story short there all in craploads of trouble now etc etc

The vid is fricking hilarious!

***NSFW*** (Mods, be cool)

JackTaylorFan

Brave lads

lottpaul

That really is hilarious

Good luck to them -- hope they don't get thrown out for it all - but if they do some of them definitely have prospects for a career in entertainment

JupiterKid

Very brave thing for them to do in Russia, one of the most homophobic countries in the world at the moment.

cgcsb

JupiterKid wrote: »

Very brave thing for them to do in Russia, one of the most homophobic countries in the world at the moment.

????
There are 195 countries in the world. 73 of them criminalise homosexuality, 7 of which carry the death penalty. That's 37% of the countries of the world. Russia is far from a rosey place for gay people but it's nowhere near the bottom of the pile.

wakka12

Ten of Swords wrote: »

A video has surfaced on Youtube today of Russian Air Cadets at the Ulyanovsk Institute of Civil Aviation stripping down to their underwear and producing a very provocative video to the tune of Benny Benassi - Satisfaction

Anyway long story short there all in craploads of trouble now etc etc

The vid is fricking hilarious!

***NSFW*** (Mods, be cool)

Haha that looks like it'd be fun to be in!
Im shocked a bunch of russian lads decided to make that video? I would have thought surely you wouldn't be able to gather such a random assortment of young russian men who'd all willingly decide to make a homo erotic video and post it , especially given the anti lgbt climate there

Anyway what are they in trouble for?IS it actual legal trouble, the anti lgbt propaganda law?

wakka12

cgcsb wrote: »

????
There are 195 countries in the world. 73 of them criminalise homosexuality, 7 of which carry the death penalty. That's 37% of the countries of the world. Russia is far from a rosey place for gay people but it's nowhere near the bottom of the pile.

Yes a lot of countries are extremely ****ty places for lgbt people to live in and russia may not be the worst at all but its still a horrible place to live if you're gay

Ten of Swords

wakka12 wrote: »

Haha that looks like it'd be fun to be in!
Im shocked a bunch of russian lads decided to make that video? I would have thought surely you wouldn't be able to gather such a random assortment of young russian men who'd all willingly decide to make a homo erotic video and post it , especially given the anti lgbt climate there

Anyway what are they in trouble for?IS it actual legal trouble, the anti lgbt propaganda law?

I don't think it was ever meant to be released, it was shared on VK (Russian Facebook) and obviously got out of hand but it was just meant to be a dorm prank. It's escalated very quickly anyway, not so many news outlets in Europe reporting on it but it's huge in Russia and causing a lot of red faces. The college is the most prestigious flight school in Russia and word is that the 14 cadets who participated in it will be expelled sadly. Russian press is reporting that they are all first year cadets except the guy at the end of the video wearing trousers, he is a senior cadet and most likely the dorm prefect.

The Ulyanovsk Oblast (province) governor has ordered an investigation into the students in the video and their teachers too so they are out for blood. Russian newspapers say that most people polled on the issue believe it was just harmless fun, their reasoning is that there is no swearing or alcohol in the video which would have made it much more of a taboo. A petition with 4,000 signatures asking to keep the cadets in the school has been handed in, doubt it will save them though

As for why, it's a Russian spin on a video made about 3 years ago by British army recruits. I couldn't work out why Russian students would use an english language song until I saw the British video. Needless to say the British recruits don't have a patch on the Russians (in looks or moves haha!)

Looks like Russia's next Eurovision entry is sorted!!!

Ash885

Those videos have played havoc with my recommended to watch on YouTube this whole week >_< Hilarious vids though, sad turn of events for the Russian one though.

Chorcai

Ash885 wrote: »

Those videos have played havoc with my recommended to watch on YouTube this whole week >_< Hilarious vids though, sad turn of events for the Russian one though.

Seems to have gathered momentum in Russia

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/how-russias-hilarious-homoerotic-satisfaction-became-a-nationwide-meme-of-solidarity

Ten of Swords

The governor of Ulyanovsk has now said he doesn't want the cadets expelled (but his language actually made me feel sorry for them if you read between the lines). Regardless of his opinion though it is still up to the academy to decide and they will all have to face the disciplinary board.

http://tass.com/society/985717

I believe that the institute’s veterans and teachers will manage to present quite a few arguments to explain to the cadets what respect for the uniform and traditions means

Translation - The senior students and alumni are going to kick the ѕhit out of you

That petition to save the cadets went from 4,000 sigs to 40,000 and there are tribute videos popping up everywhere. Some of them are really good actually! The one the Ukrainian swim team put up is brilliant, go to 0.55 - creative!!!

wakka12

Ten of Swords wrote: »

The governor of Ulyanovsk has now said he doesn't want the cadets expelled (but his language actually made me feel sorry for them if you read between the lines). Regardless of his opinion though it is still up to the academy to decide and they will all have to face the disciplinary board.

http://tass.com/society/985717

Translation - The senior students and alumni are going to kick the ѕhit out of you

That petition to save the cadets went from 4,000 sigs to 40,000 and there are tribute videos popping up everywhere. Some of them are really good actually! The one the Ukrainian swim team put up is brilliant, go to 0.55 - creative!!!

Haha that ending was gas! I like all these response videos..I guess its horrible stereotyping on my part( which is ever worse seeing as I know plenty of russian people who good humoured just like any of us) but all those response videos made me a lot warmer to russia since I heard about them

JackTaylorFan

My favourite one was the very furry friendly drama troupe version

Ten of Swords

This news story made for some very uncomfortable reading today, I actually found it quite disturbing. Two 17 year old lads secretly fool around a few times, word gets out so one lures the other to a meeting and stabs him six times with a kitchen knife. The victim survived the attack two years ago and the sentencing hearing was last week.

Two years, suspended.

https://waterford-news.ie/2019/03/20/scorned-lover-victim-of-frenzied-stabbing/

368100

Ten of Swords wrote: »

This news story made for some very uncomfortable reading today, I actually found it quite disturbing. Two 17 year old lads secretly fool around a few times, word gets out so one lures the other to a meeting and stabs him six times with a kitchen knife. The victim survived the attack two years ago and the sentencing hearing was last week.

Two years, suspended.

https://waterford-news.ie/2019/03/20/scorned-lover-victim-of-frenzied-stabbing/

How was this only a suspended sentence? Madness!

Canard

https://www.smh.com.au/healthcare/in-complete-shock-sydney-man-contracts-hiv-despite-taking-prep-drug-20190321-p5165z.html

Did anyone else see this? Pretty shocking. But it got me thinking - do people use PrEP to make NSA bareback 'safe'?! I always thought people took it as an extra precaution to condoms if they were having a lotttt of sex... maybe I was wrong?

Ten of Swords

He was taking it 'on demand' which I assume in this case means loading doses for 48 hours before/after. That's probably less effective than taking it on an ongoing basis. Will wait and see it more information comes out.

It does seem that some people are conflating PrEP with absolute infallible safety and it being simply another safeguard which should work alongside common sense!

TimeUp

I just wanted to recommend you all to watch "Please Like Me" if you have Netflix.

I think it's probably the best TV series I've ever seen, and that's saying much considering I don't usually like LGTB themed shows.

368100

TimeUp wrote: »

I just wanted to recommend you all to watch "Please Like Me" if you have Netflix.

I think it's probably the best TV series I've ever seen, and that's saying much considering I don't usually like LGTB themed shows.

Not on Irish Netflix

Ten of Swords

I noticed this small and obscure reference when reading about Nancy Pelosi's speech in the Dail on Wednesday

Whether by accident or design, Senator Ronan Mullen walked out as she praised the "modern Ireland" that had "blossomed" into a country which backed marriage equality and repealed the Eighth.

Such was his haste, Mullen walked into a wall before finding the door.

Oireachtas TV didn't film it, there is a very brief shot of someone moving quickly through the top gallery then the camera is back on Pelosi as one of the Dail ushers looks up at something.

TimeUp

368100 wrote: »

Not on Irish Netflix

That's a shame, it's so good!

imme

Nova, the gay bar in Galway has closed down.

I became aware of this in gcn magazine.

They also report the death of the lady who held the lease, Anne Buckley, rip.

Gremlinertia

It reopened last week, former member of staff took it over..

imme

Gremlinertia wrote: »

It reopened last week, former member of staff took it over..

Good stuff.

Thanks for the reply.

Ten of Swords

I thought this is pretty interesting,

Canada has released a $1 commemorating 50 years since laws there began the process of decriminalization of homosexuality and the beginning of the equal rights movement. 3 million of these coins will be struck.

TimeUp

What's the kinkiest thing that's ever happened to you?

Ten of Swords

I came across this BBC piece this morning completely by chance and it hit a nerve. Thought I'd share,

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-48301517/how-are-we-different-from-traditional-couples

Ten of Swords

Shocked to hear gaystarnews.com is closing down, I used that site often and I found it to be one of the better ones for news and current affairs. I always assumed it was an American site, surprised to learn it is British.

Sad that a lack of sponsorship caused it, guess pinkwashing only goes so far for some businesses

Annasopra

Ten of Swords wrote: »

Shocked to hear gaystarnews.com is closing down, I used that site often and I found it to be one of the better ones for news and current affairs. I always assumed it was an American site, surprised to learn it is British.

Sad that a lack of sponsorship caused it, guess pinkwashing only goes so far for some businesses

Ah thats sad. I found it was quite a good site.