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BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day

BorneTobyWilde

Modnote - Thread moved to new thread because the other one was near 10k posts.

Bangernomics part 5 here
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057493741

Bangernomics rules:
Under €2000
Valid NCT
Something you'd actually drive yourself
VRT paid
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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-bmw-520i-nct-05-18/15133222

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nct 5/18
2005

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johndaman66

selectamatic wrote: »

Yep the 1.6 valvematic engine as johnboy posted about a few posts ago.

The 1.6vvti engine from the zz family is the older engine found in the mk2 avensis.

Yep the older ZZ VVTI unit from the MK2 not to be found in the MK3 but the newer 1.6 1ZR-FAE unit in the MK3 is a VVTI engine all the same with valematic.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mazda-3-1-6-comfort-nct-11-19/20937943
Insurance will probably send this one to its resting place before anything else.
Mazda 3 1.6 litre;
Tested 11/2019;
135K miles;
looks clean;
tax @ €514 on engine capacity basis;
Asking €1,995

The lips

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mazda-3-1-6-comfort-nct-11-19/20937943
Insurance will probably send this one to its resting place before anything else.
Mazda 3 1.6 litre;
Tested 11/2019;
135K miles;
looks clean;
tax @ €514 on engine capacity basis;
Asking €1,995[/quote]

I was shopping mazdas, why are they so expensive to tax as 2008 + registrations?

johndaman66

The lips wrote: »

I was shopping mazdas, why are they so expensive to tax as 2008 + registrations?

I'm guessing your looking at petrol models? In general motor tax went up on petrol models and down on diesels in 2008 when the change was made from engine capacity to CO2 emission basis for private car motor tax. I re-emphasise in general as it will have depended on the very engine at the time and that would be driven in no small part in general by its age at the time. For the most part the motor tax on petrol models went up at the time with the general exception of some then modern petrol units while visa versa for the diesels.

That Mazda 3 I provided link for is on the old engine capacity basis with the motor tax being €514. If it were on the CO2 basis it would be €570 to tax. I'm fairly certain that a Mazda 6 MPS was on the highest of the CO2 rates at the time. By comparison the motor tax on a 08 1.6 diesel Mazda 3 on the CO2 basis is €270

selectamatic

johndaman66 wrote: »

Yep the older ZZ VVTI unit from the MK2 not to be found in the MK3 but the newer 1.6 1ZR-FAE unit in the MK3 is a VVTI engine all the same with valematic.

Ay I'm referring to how they are referenced by toyota though. The older zz was denoted vvti but the newer 1.6 is denoted valvematic.

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Surely if theres something so wrong with it it'll be hard to miss on viewing/driving it. My guess is clutch. But even still I'd take a chance on it and get as long out of the car as I could, sell those alloys and scrap whats left. Maybe its better suited to the new cheap-o thread..

Turbo seals on the way out, possibly a suspect headgasket or injector seals going bad could be easily enough missed too.

That said it could be grand and it'd do fine as a cheap buy. It is interesting that it's up for sale again though.

Interslice

The lips wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mazda-3-1-6-comfort-nct-11-19/20937943
Insurance will probably send this one to its resting place before anything else.
Mazda 3 1.6 litre;
Tested 11/2019;
135K miles;
looks clean;
tax @ €514 on engine capacity basis;
Asking €1,995

I was shopping mazdas, why are they so expensive to tax as 2008 + registrations?[/QUOTE]

Anything in particular to look out for in these mazda 3's?

punisher5112

Interslice wrote: »

I was shopping mazdas, why are they so expensive to tax as 2008 + registrations?

Anything in particular to look out for in these mazda 3's?[/quote]

Because they're bad on emissions.

Anything June 2008 onwards were co based so lots of 1.4, 1.6 etc increased as they are terribly bad on juice for example.

Interslice

colm_mcm wrote: »

Has he been in a Mazda 3 yet?

Im not sure colm. I dont know where this mazda 3 came from. Going to ring him tonight and try and convince him to buy a 1.8 civic. He was previously in a hyundai coupe and thought it was the dogs so... Normally id have a look at cars for friends that are completely clueless and an open book. Its a less comfortable thing with someone who has a little bit of knowledge and a certain model in mind. Its only to keep him on the road for the year as the hyundai was a write off after someone tipped into it so.its more about reliability than a nice place to sit etc.

colm_mcm

It’s hard to beat a 1.8 civic for ease of ownership in my experience.

W123-80's

'00 Discovery
NCT March '20
Low owners

It'll probably break your heart and your wallet, but I like them.

Asking €1,850

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/land-rover-disco-2/21718251

W123-80's

'06 Seat Alhambra 1.9D
NCT May '20
Tax Sept '19
232k kms/145k miles
Looks a decent family boat if it checks out albeit a bit pricey

Asking €1,750

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2006-seat-alhambra-7-seater/21701025?campaign=3

CoBo55

selectamatic wrote: »

The mk3 didn't get the 1.6 vvti engine

I looked at a 09 for a friend and it definitely was the older engine in the new body, Irish car 750 tax, he didn't buy it, that was in 2016.

Interslice

colm_mcm wrote: »

It’s hard to beat a 1.8 civic for ease of ownership in my experience.

Was chatting to him there. After i pointed out a load of holes in this yolk he wanted to view, https://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/Mazda/Mazda3-1.6-SPORT-4DR/201903266268997 civics are in the game. They look to be the best value at this in this particular bangernomics sector at the moment. Should make things a bit easier.

colm_mcm

CoBo55 wrote: »

I looked at a 09 for a friend and it definitely was the older engine in the new body, Irish car 750 tax, he didn't buy it, that was in 2016.

That’s definitely not correct.

CoBo55

colm_mcm wrote: »

That’s definitely not correct.

I didn't like the look of the car or the boyo selling it, definitely something dodgy going on, I questioned him about it's engine, he got very shifty, don't know what became of it, MN plate... It was time to walk..

JohnBoy26

CoBo55 wrote: »

I looked at a 09 for a friend and it definitely was the older engine in the new body, Irish car 750 tax, he didn't buy it, that was in 2016.

They weren't ever fitted with the old engine so I don't know how that is. Are you certain it was the new model?

CoBo55

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

They weren't ever fitted with the old engine so I don't know how that is. Are you certain it was the new model?

You're right, the seller was trying to convince the buyer it was the new petrol engine in a 09 last of the line old model, it wasn't. Sorry for the confusion, old age setting in...

Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2003-citroen-c3-1-1l-new-nct1ownerserv-history/21720928

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1 owner, NCT till Feb 2020, tidy, low miles etc

€475

Mad_Mike

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2003-citroen-c3-1-1l-new-nct1ownerserv-history/21720928

1 owner, NCT till Feb 2020, tidy, low miles etc

€475

That's tidy for under 500 quid! :eek:

Duke O Smiley

I was going to post it in the cheap-o thread but thought it looked too good for there

Mad_Mike

Gone already!

Sofiztikated

Mad_Mike wrote: »

That's tidy for under 500 quid! :eek:

I'd have snapped that right up.

The Mask 13

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-focus-zetec-new-nct-price-reduced/21660458

Looking for a reliable car under 1000 just to get to work and back everyday (30 miles total) has anyone any advice on something like this? Thanks

SCOOP 64

The Mask 13 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-focus-zetec-new-nct-price-reduced/21660458

Looking for a reliable car under 1000 just to get to work and back everyday (30 miles total) has anyone any advice on something like this? Thanks

looks clean, low mileage,would ask when timing belt was done.

punisher5112

The Mask 13 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-focus-zetec-new-nct-price-reduced/21660458

Looking for a reliable car under 1000 just to get to work and back everyday (30 miles total) has anyone any advice on something like this? Thanks

UK import so be sure mileage is correct.

43mpg is laughable to be honest.

10l/100km is about it and may improve slightly on a long run but not hugely.

The Mask 13

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

looks clean, low mileage,would ask when timing belt was done.

He said the TB and pump were done at 60,000 (3years ago) 90,000 on it now

zg3409

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

The Mask 13 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-focus-zetec-new-nct-price-reduced/21660458

Looking for a reliable car under 1000 just to get to work and back everyday (30 miles total) has anyone any advice on something like this? Thanks

looks clean, low mileage,would ask when timing belt was done.

A years tax would nearly be the price of the car. If you intend holding on to it for a few years, might be better to factor cost of road tax into calculations . If short trips then avoid diesel cars. That said if it was close, and you wanted a bit of power...

Sofiztikated

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2004-bmw-520i-petrol/21733552

High miler 520i. Tested til January. Interior looks well.

Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-s40-2009-1-owner-long-nct-leather-seats/21647713

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Pity about the tax on this. Two years test, nice leather etc - €1890

If my neighbour came home with this tomorrow I'd think thats a €3-4k car

punisher5112

The Mask 13 wrote: »

He said the TB and pump were done at 60,000 (3years ago) 90,000 on it now

Some how I don't believe that unless proof.

Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2010-hyundai-sonata-cdti-nct-03-20/21731219

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Years test, cheap-ish tax, high miles, €1400

They're actually not a bad looking car..