Peter Casey to contest the European elections

pjohnson wrote: »

Jaysus what planet are you on?

You disagree?

MrMusician18

Faugheen wrote: »

You don't like foreigners and you're voting Casey for 'telling the truth' about foreigners.

Therefore I believe you are a racist.

That's not racism.

It's xenophobia.

Charles Ingles wrote: »

Anti abortion do you mean?

Nope, anti-choice.

If you're anti-abortion then you'd rather raped women have their baby or get on the plane.

Charles Ingles wrote: »

Sure killer tubridy threatened to beat him up after an attempted ambush on the late late show

Not convinced that Tubs could punch his way out of a paper bag!

Nobelium

Charles Ingles wrote: »

Yes well rte accounts for at least half of higgans vote count.
They acted as election agents for him across radio and television. In both election campaigns.
Casey's vote came from the people in spite of Rte attempts to scandalise him mis quote him to make him drop out the race.
Sure killer tubridy threatened to beat him up after an attempted ambush on the late late show

Regardless of RTE's usual shenanigans, Higgan's was the least worst candidate in a very poor line up.

FrancieBrady

Faugheen wrote: »

You don't like foreigners and you're voting Casey for 'telling the truth' about foreigners.

Therefore I believe you are a racist.

There is also, demeaning candidates because they are 'gay'(whatever that has to do with their suitability) 'entered a competition' and likening the president to a 'monkey'.

MrMusician18 wrote: »

That's not racism.

It's xenophobia.

It's all one side of the same arse as far as I'm concerned.

Faugheen wrote: »

Nope, anti-choice.

If you're anti-abortion then you'd rather raped women have their baby or get on the plane.

Ok best of luck with that.
Strawman

Faugheen wrote: »

You don't like foreigners and you're voting Casey for 'telling the truth' about foreigners.

Therefore I believe you are a racist.

This is typical 'if you're not for us, then you're agin us' rhetoric.

It's quite possible to empathise with some of the issues that Casey raises, without being racist at all. It's not black & white and it does a disservice to normal politics to make out that it is.

BarryD2 wrote: »

Not convinced that Tubs could punch his way out of a paper bag!

Casey would take him grew up in free Derry during the troubles.
Tubridy grew up in a bubble

Faugheen wrote: »

It's all one side of the same arse as far as I'm concerned.

Two completely different things

Faugheen wrote:

You don't like foreigners and you're voting Casey for 'telling the truth' about foreigners.

Kindly put out where I said the above, otherwise you are a liar.

Faugheen wrote:

Therefore I believe you are a racist.

Reported

BarryD2 wrote: »

This is typical 'if you're not for us, then you're agin us' rhetoric.

It's quite possible to empathise with some of the issues that Casey raises, without being racist at all. It's not black & white and it does a disservice to normal politics to make out that it is.

Then why are people voting for someone based on a rant about foreigners but with no actual policy to tackle the 'issues' raised in that rant?

They're voting for him based on an 'old man yells at cloud' type rant. It's very black and white as far as I'm concerned.

Some posters say 'we'll see what he does to tackle rural issues' when he can't do anything about it as an MEP ffs. They've no idea what the f*ck they're talking about.

I'd rather someone just said 'I don't like foreigners' instead of pretending to be something they're not.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Reported

Why? If you can't stand the heat in the kichen etc etc..

Charles Ingles wrote: »

Two completely different things

Both scummy.

FrancieBrady wrote:

There is also, demeaning candidates because they are 'gay'(whatever that has to do with their suitability) 'entered a competition' and likening the president to a 'monkey'.

I see you are engaging with your usual tactics of misrepresentation. I said a monkey could do the job. I didn't liken the incumbent to a monkey. Don't be telling lies Francie when so easily disproved.

BarryD2 wrote:

Why? If you can't stand the heat in the kichen etc etc..

I'm not having someone write lies about me and accuse me of racism without reacting.

Faugheen wrote: »

Then why are people voting for someone based on a rant about foreigners but with no actual policy to tackle the 'issues' raised in that rant?

Because it resonates with them! Voters are aware that some people are stuck in the asylum system for years. Some of this is the fault of the system but there is no doubt at all, that there are some asylum seekers playing the system, prolonging it with appeals and then complaining about being stuck in it.

Faugheen wrote: »

Both scummy.

Well if you are talking about genuine racism I'd agree with you.
But discussion boarders and immigration doesn't make anybody a racist.

Nobelium

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I'm not having someone write lies about me and accuse me of racism without reacting.

I suppose it's a case of not being able to refute the points so they resort to name calling instead, and making it about the poster instead of the points raised. A sure sign of a weak or no argument.

FrancieBrady

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I see you are engaging with your usual tactics of misrepresentation. I said a monkey could do the job. I didn't liken the incumbent to a monkey. Don't be telling lies Francie when so easily disproved.

Yeh, and you are not really trying to demean women either by plucking one thing about their life out to highlight or to highlight their sexuality.

We can all read between the lines.

Danzy

Faugheen wrote: »

Therefore I believe you are a racist.

Pot calling the kettle black.

You have had some choice views yourself that leave you open to the same charge.

MrMusician18

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Getting 22 per cent is getting your ass handed to you?

It wasn't getting 22 percent that was sensational about Casey's performance but that he went from being the laggard at 1pc to 22pc on the back of one quote. While one unnamed minister dismissed his performance as him being the candidate all the eternally malcontent got behind, I personally think that was a complete misreading of his vote. Some traveler families are causing issues in rural communities and no one up until him had the guts to nationally air private views of a substantial cohort of voters and indeed many local politicians. He pointed out the hypocrisy of those that were calling him a racist but them supporting a system that sees halting sites placed in rural towns and never in the likes of Donnybrook, well away from the talking heads.

I think he may have won the first preference vote in places like Longford for that very reason.

Alright Plumbthedepths.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Gay woman, ex winner of the lovely girl competition. Ticks a few boxes for some.

Your post about Maria Walsh.

My opinion on Peter Casey.

‘Racist/xenophobic with no actual policies. Ticks a few boxes for some.’

How is that post any different to what you said about Maria Walsh and the voters she might represent?

Danzy wrote: »

Pot calling the kettle black.

You have had some choice views yourself that leave you open to the same charge.

Such as?

Charles Ingles wrote: »

Well if you are talking about genuine racism I'd agree with you.
But discussion boarders and immigration doesn't make anybody a racist.

When people who are in Direct Provision in order to get out of whatever they’re facing in their own country are being called ‘freeloaders’ then I wouldn’t call that a ‘discussion’, it’s a rant.

Faugheen wrote: »

When people who are in Direct Provision in order to get out of whatever they’re facing in their own country are being called ‘freeloaders’ then I wouldn’t call that a ‘discussion’, it’s a rant.

Who called them freeloaders?

Charles Ingles wrote: »

Who called them freeloaders?

Peter Casey.

Are you paying any attention to the thread?