FrancieBrady wrote: » It's a disgrace that the two governments haven't applied this pressure before now. They could have convened these talks at any time.
timthumbni wrote: » They could
FrancieBrady wrote: » They have done it now, what was stopping them doing it long ago? They have options to apply pressure and they refuse to do it until somebody dies.
timthumbni wrote: » Somebody didn’t simply die francie. That sounds like an old grandma at 90 who died peacefully in her sleep. Lyra at 29 was shot by so called Irish republicans in Doire. She was murdered. Whether this makes any difference to our **** kicker so called politicians is debatable. I would have stopped their wages a long time personally. They should immediately return. The issues over gay marriage and the language nonsense should then be thrashed out then.
timthumbni wrote: » Unless SF drop their preconditions then I’m not hopeful for any change.
FrancieBrady wrote: » OK, somebody was murdered and then they decide to act.
timthumbni wrote: » The fact is they have called the parties together again for talks. Has anything changed though? If SF insist on the issues being changed before a return to Stormont and the DUP insist on returning to Stormont and them talking about the issues then where is the change going to come from? A dose of removing pay is what should happen to start. Due to legal bull**** and technicalities this probably won’t happen. After all SF mps get all the drippings of the fat despite never taking their seats in Westminster. Load of bull****. But the wee man will pick the bill up as usual.
Junkyard Tom wrote: » Rights aren't preconditions and SF/SDLP/ALL and I'd say a fair number of UUP would like to see them passed through Stormont.
timthumbni wrote: » Then wtf were sf sitting in the assembly in the first place? They didn’t leave because of gay marriage. Sure didn’t they make a dick of themselves at that gay bar in Belfast?
FrancieBrady wrote: » wtf are the DUP doing in the assembly if they are not prepared to observe the GFA which underpins it?
timthumbni wrote: » Is gay marriage even mentioned in the gfa? I doubt it. And if it is why has it taken so many years to raise itself?
Under the Good Friday Agreement, the Government of the United Kingdom agreed that it would create: a statutory duty on public authorities in Northern Ireland to carry out all their functions with due regard to the need to promote equality of opportunity in relation to religion and political opinion; gender... and sexual orientation
Berserker wrote: » The two governments can't keep stepping in when things break down in NI. The parties in NI have to start sorting out these problems on their own. The DUP have stated that they are willing to talk. Time for SF to step up to the plate and get back to real business. I don't think they have the ability to do the job, that's why they keep walking away. They don't have the bottle or the brains to be in government in the RoI. We found that out after the last election. The DUP does observe the GFA. You need a fully functioning political system before you can look to attack issues like gay marriage. Another reason for SF to get back into government.
creating: a statutory duty on public authorities in Northern Ireland to carry out all their functions with due regard to the need to promote equality of opportunity in relation to religion and political opinion; gender... and sexual orientation
citytillidie wrote: » Equal rights for all is
timthumbni wrote: » That’s a student rights way of looking at things. Silly. I support gay marriage but it’s got **** all to do with the GFA. The assembly did not collapse because of that.
FrancieBrady wrote: » SF and the DUP agreed a deal and what happened? The UK government have failed for 20 years to live up to: Are you living in some alternate reality here?
blanch152 wrote: » It's a bigger disgrace that the two governments are needed to apply the pressure to the squabbling children in the North.
blanch152 wrote: » When all is lost, blame the Brits.
FrancieBrady wrote: » They have waited until somebody died.
timthumbni wrote: » As said before Lyra didn’t suffer a heart attack or a car accident. She was shot dead by some blood thirsty Irish republican. What are the people in doire doing about it exactly?
FrancieBrady wrote: » She is dead, Tim. And she shouldn't be.
citytillidie wrote: » Hopefully the people of Derry who were there last week or know more information have given that information to the cops and they themselves are then not attacked my those bullies. That’s all they can do what else do you expect?
Ash.J.Williams wrote: » One of the new images looks as if someone tried to stop the killer?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Those two governments colluded to partition the island, thus causing the issues we still have 100 years later.
markodaly wrote: » WTF? The Free State colluded now? More New IRA apologist talk. Partition is a reality because the people VOTED for it. Never let the facts get in the way of your own vested interest to pass the buck of violence.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » You should know by now you cannot have a thread on here that says anything bad about republicans! The usual defenders swoop in wearing their green capes and shoehorn in any old excuse and will of course ALWAYS blame "de British" no matter what.
