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Western Rail Corridor / Rail Trail Discussion

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Carrying on with the discussion as the other thread is full

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2055766866/1

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whisky_galore

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Pretty much (although a few commuters might use it.) But it's cheap and generates real economic benefits without an ongoing subsidy.

How cheap is "cheap"?
It still has to maintained, and that's not exactly free. People have got it into their heads that these things cost next to nothing.

Hotblack Desiato

whisky_galore wrote: »

Isn't that all a greenway is, so people can have a nice day out? It's not a serious piece of transport infrastructure.

Pretty much (although a few commuters might use it.) But it's cheap and generates real economic benefits without an ongoing subsidy.

westtip

London Correspondent wrote: »

Why are you asking if I went to school with another poster on the board. It’s like you want to find out or reveal personal information about me. For the record I think Lord Glentoran was a minister in the Stormont Government some time in the sixties. I think he may have been instrumental in closing much of the North’s railways. So no, I didnt go to prep school with him, and if you really need to know who I went to school with I consider that creepy.

yep thought so, no sense of humour. I have no desire to know anymore about you personally, couldn't give a monkeys old chap, it was a jest, clearly not understood. Touch of spin there, I obviously bowled you the wrong 'un or was it a googly. Not sure never really mastered the art of leg spin bowling.

London Correspondent

westtip wrote: »

I have no idea, perhaps you should visit Kilmactomais in Waterford to see the number of new start up businesses resulting from folks having a nice day out....it is a serious piece of tourism infrastructure, but sure you know that. but good to see Lord GT and London Correspondent like your school boy humour, were you all at the same prep school together? it's about the level of wit you appear capable of achieving.

Why are you asking if I went to school with another poster on the board. It’s like you want to find out or reveal personal information about me. For the record I think Lord Glentoran was a minister in the Stormont Government some time in the sixties. I think he may have been instrumental in closing much of the North’s railways. So no, I didnt go to prep school with him, and if you really need to know who I went to school with I consider that creepy.

blanch152

jasper100 wrote: »

Another round of silly cyber high five LOL's all round posts from the lads.

Commuters travelling to work over a long distance won't be taking the bike.:rolleyes:

There shouldn't be commuters travelling to work over long distances. No more rural housing, just build up the cities of Galway, Limerick, Cork and Waterford as well as some of the larger towns as service centres.

whisky_galore

westtip wrote: »

sounds like a quote from the McCann report! Let's go build a train line so pensioners can have a nice day out and students can use it on Friday nights and Sunday evenings.....

Isn't that all a greenway is, so people can have a nice day out? It's not a serious piece of transport infrastructure.

Lord Glentoran

London Correspondent wrote: »

McCarthy is truly a one-legged man in an arse kicking contest.

westtip

London Correspondent wrote: »

I’m confused. Are you advocating for a Greenway on a
Rail track in the west or are you looking to close down railways in the west?

No wrong on both counts. I never ever said close down railways in the west, Athenry to Collooney is already well and truly closed, and is highly unlikely to re-open.

As for other railways in the west, yep I would love to see high speed trains from Dublin to Sligo, Galway and indeed Limerick. I would love to get on a train in Sligo and arrive in Dublin 90 minutes later, or in Galway and arrive in Dublin an hour later. Entirely possible, unfornuately a lobby group like West on Track has been lobbying for the wrong kind of rail infrastructure for years. We can agree to differ on this matter, but that's life.

serfboard

Del.Monte wrote: »

More worthless rubbish from a well known anti-railway pundit.

Why didn't you go for the WOT full-house and claim that he's "anti-west" as well? :rolleyes:

Tell me what it is about this that you disagree with:

Colm McCarthy wrote:

If an extra €100m could be found for transport investment in the west, would this be best spent on road improvements or on another single-track rail line offering infrequent service and guaranteed to lose money?

What's amusing to me is that an economist based in Dublin is derided as being clueless on transport, whereas a priest based in Maynooth is an expert?

jasper100 wrote: »

High density housing clustered around a railway station with a frequent and reliable service.

If this was the case Woodlawn would be a metropolis.

Not much "high density housing clustered around a railway station" there ...

London Correspondent

westtip wrote: »

Yep you are dead right what we need is some really serious transport planners to write a report for us, just like the geniuses who wrote the McCann Report which in turn led to the disastrous policy of the Western Rail Corridor.

Now who was that McCann report written by????.....Duhhh let me think, most of its so called Expert Working Group was made up of members of West on Track.....This will never be allowed to happen again, A lobby group being allowed to write public policy, sorry to disappoint you LC no matter what Colm MCarthy writes I can assure the future policy on the so called Western Rail Corridor is not going to be written by high command in Claremorris or the priest in Maynooth. Days numbered. End of.

I’m confused. Are you advocating for a Greenway on a
Rail track in the west or are you looking to close down railways in the west?

westtip

London Correspondent wrote: »

This is a very serious point; Ireland’s emissions are not under control and we face significant carbon taxes as a result. Listening to fools like McCarthy and those who believe him has led us to the place we are in now.

Yep you are dead right what we need is some really serious transport planners to write a report for us, just like the geniuses who wrote the McCann Report which in turn led to the disastrous policy of the Western Rail Corridor.

Now who was that McCann report written by????.....Duhhh let me think, most of its so called Expert Working Group was made up of members of West on Track.....This will never be allowed to happen again, A lobby group being allowed to write public policy, sorry to disappoint you LC no matter what Colm MCarthy writes I can assure the future policy on the so called Western Rail Corridor is not going to be written by high command in Claremorris or the priest in Maynooth. Days numbered. End of.

London Correspondent

Deleted User wrote: »

Which provable fact that he stated do you have a problem with?

westtip

Isambard wrote: »

what you say is true.
However a lot of the passengers won't care how long it takes as they are out for the day trip. I might go for a train ride but I wouldn't ever take the bus, I've a car for road journeys. I expect there are others like me.

sounds like a quote from the McCann report! Let's go build a train line so pensioners can have a nice day out and students can use it on Friday nights and Sunday evenings.....

Isambard

what you say is true.
However a lot of the passengers won't care how long it takes as they are out for the day trip. I might go for a train ride but I wouldn't ever take the bus, I've a car for road journeys. I expect there are others like me.

westtip

Lord Glentoran wrote: »

I wouldn’t be surprised if there’ll be a fella soon with a megaphone on the Galway - Limerick trains roaring “Why aren’t ye on yer bikes!!!!” at the passengers...

Or he might shout why didn't you take the bus you'd be there by now, as they trundle into Athenry for the driver turnaround. Mind you he wouldn't have much to say to anyone on the Ennis/Athenry section, as despite the most recently massaged figures this section is still massively underperforming the business case forecast, but hey what's new...

westtip

Lord Glentoran wrote: »

I wouldn’t be surprised if there’ll be a fella soon with a megaphone on the Galway - Limerick trains roaring “Why aren’t ye on yer bikes!!!!” at the passengers...

don't worry they can all get on the velorail from Kiltimagh to Athenry, no news on that project moving forward is there?:D

Lord Glentoran

Muckyboots wrote: »

They won't be taking a train to Athenry either - rolls eyes, dishes out high fives and L'sOL...

I wouldn’t be surprised if there’ll be a fella soon with a megaphone on the Galway - Limerick trains roaring “Why aren’t ye on yer bikes!!!!” at the passengers...

Muckyboots

jasper100 wrote: »

Another round of silly cyber high five LOL's all round posts from the lads.

Commuters travelling to work over a long distance won't be taking the bike.:rolleyes:

They won't be taking a train to Athenry either - rolls eyes, dishes out high fives and L'sOL...

jasper100

Deleted User wrote: »

Cyclists produce no emissions, sounds like we should have a lot more greenways

Another round of silly cyber high five LOL's all round posts from the lads.

Commuters travelling to work over a long distance won't be taking the bike.:rolleyes:

[Deleted User]

London Correspondent wrote: »

This is a very serious point; Ireland’s emissions are not under control and we face significant carbon taxes as a result. Listening to fools like McCarthy and those who believe him has led us to the place we are in now.

Cyclists produce no emissions, sounds like we should have a lot more greenways

London Correspondent

jasper100 wrote: »

The fundamental issue is that constantly building roads and motorways is not the solution. It just leads to further congestion at the edges of cities and more gridlock. Ireland also needs to get its emissions under control and more roads and cars ain't the answer.

This is a very serious point; Ireland’s emissions are not under control and we face significant carbon taxes as a result. Listening to fools like McCarthy and those who believe him has led us to the place we are in now.

London Correspondent

The only lols around here are those who actually take what Colm McCarthy has to say on railways seriously. This is the “economist” who not only tried to stop both the Dart and the Luas but Failed miserably to forecast the collapse of the Celtic Tiger years.

[Deleted User]

jasper100 wrote: »

High density housing clustered around a railway station with a frequent and reliable service.

Lol, If the WRC had the power to change national planning policy I'd feckin build it myself

marno21

Time to revive the Ballyglunin Towers proposal.

[Deleted User]

jasper100 wrote: »

High density housing clustered around a railway station with a frequent and reliable service.

High density housing. In rural Ireland? Lads... there'll be war over the restrictions needed for that :pac:

jasper100

Deleted User wrote: »

Can you clarify how half-empty 2 carriage trains address that

High density housing clustered around a railway station with a frequent and reliable service.

[Deleted User]

jasper100 wrote: »

The fundamental issue is that constantly building roads and motorways is not the solution. It just leads to further congestion at the edges of cities and more gridlock. Ireland also needs to get its emissions under control and more roads and cars ain't the answer.

Can you clarify how half-empty 2 carriage trains address that

jasper100

Deleted User wrote: »

Which provable fact that he stated do you have a problem with?

The fundamental issue is that constantly building roads and motorways is not the solution. It just leads to further congestion at the edges of cities and more gridlock. Ireland also needs to get its emissions under control and more roads and cars ain't the answer.

[Deleted User]

Del.Monte wrote: »

More worthless rubbish from a well known anti-railway pundit. Paper never refused ink but how he gets paid for repeating the same old tripe over and over again.

Which provable fact that he stated do you have a problem with?

Del.Monte

More worthless rubbish from a well known anti-railway pundit. Paper never refused ink but how he gets paid for repeating the same old tripe over and over again.