Pumps.ie

Waze already has this functionality with a pretty decent UI, why re-invent the wheel? It just needs more users in Ireland.

fryup wrote: »

any budding young web designer out there want to start a new fuel price website
& app???

*might make a few bob in advertising at least

I'm not young anymore but I would be willing to take over the website and host it and maintain it. I wouldn't take on the app, someone else perhaps.

The problem is that no one seems to know who owns it and although we have an email address for the app developer, he is not responding.

DaDumTish wrote: »

eds dead baby, eds dead **

** may not be true

@DaDumTish, can you elaborate please?

mikeecho

WestWicklow1 wrote: »

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The problem is that no one seems to know who owns it.....

Edwin Costello is the creator/owner

mikeecho wrote: »

Edwin Costello is the creator/owner

I thought he only owned the app and was facilitated by the website owner.

Does Edwin own the website also?

Squidgy Black

Google Maps changed their licencing, they now charge for using the Google Maps API as part of any web application, I'd imagine that combined with the cost of maintenance/hosting is what led to the demise of pumps.ie, it more than likely ended up costing too much to run.

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Google Maps changed their licencing, they now charge for using the Google Maps API as part of any web application, I'd imagine that combined with the cost of maintenance/hosting is what led to the demise of pumps.ie, it more than likely ended up costing too much to run.

What I cannot fathom is why the owner of the website would not simply inform users of the situation.

Anyway, if we don't get any info we'll have to wait until the end of November '19 when the domain pumps.ie is due for renewal.

https://www.iedr.ie/whois-result/?whois=pumps

IEDR used to show the registrant but not any more.

Squidgy Black

WestWicklow1 wrote: »

What I cannot fathom is why the owner of the website would not simply inform users of the situation.

Anyway, if we don't get any info we'll have to wait until the end of November '19 when the domain pumps.ie is due for renewal.

https://www.iedr.ie/whois-result/?whois=pumps

IEDR used to show the registrant but not any more.

No idea, seems like they just walked away and didn't care.

Would be nice to get some baseline stats in terms of visits and usage etc to get a grasp of costs of running something similar, the application itself would be fairly simple to develop.

mikeecho

That site has been in decline for the past few years. The dev used to give news updates on the expected rise/fall of fuel prices.

Shame to see a great site & app fall into disuse .

I was an avid updater of prices in my locality.

SweetCaliber

Such a pity, was a great and handy site to use, I'd be up for helping dev's create a new version, wouldn't be difficult.

I consistently found (from pumps.ie) that Go Kylemore Dublin was very competitive and worth the extra mile or two to fill up. Could they and others post their daily pump prices on their facebook page? (and make Facebook useful for a change!)

sligojoek

I try to contribute waze since I got the app. One thing I've noticed is a lot of petrol stations have started putting the deisel price on top of the price board. Maybe cos it's a lower figure than petrol.

Auld Jim Halpin wrote: »

I consistently found (from pumps.ie) that Go Kylemore Dublin was very competitive and worth the extra mile or two to fill up. Could they and others post their daily pump prices on their facebook page? (and make Facebook useful for a change!)

Diesel today €129.90
Petrol today €139.90

mikeecho

WestWicklow1 wrote: »

Diesel today €129.90
Petrol today €139.90

It's pointless posting prices.. there are over 1,000 petrol stations.

Pumps.ie has been down in the past, but never for this long.
I think it's time to call it a day. .. now if someone want to start up pumpz.ie app & website..

Tarabuses

Still no sign of Pumps.ie being fixed.

WestWicklow1 wrote: »

Diesel today €129.90
Petrol today €139.90

Thanks WestWicklow 1, fair play to you, and fair play to Go Kylemore, that's 5c cheaper than I was getting it locally

i57dwun4yb1pt8

WestWicklow1 wrote: »

I'm not young anymore but I would be willing to take over the website and host it and maintain it. I wouldn't take on the app, someone else perhaps.

The problem is that no one seems to know who owns it and although we have an email address for the app developer, he is not responding.

@DaDumTish, can you elaborate please?

its a pulp fiction joke , nothing important

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Google Maps changed their licencing, they now charge for using the Google Maps API as part of any web application, I'd imagine that combined with the cost of maintenance/hosting is what led to the demise of pumps.ie, it more than likely ended up costing too much to run.

You could live without the built-in map if the cost was one of the issues, a link to a map and location would work just as well.

Go Kylemore Sunday 5th May:
Diesel 133.9
Petrol 145.9

Barrel price dropping over the last 2 weeks, hopefully see a drop a the pump soon

You'd be much better off entering the prices into Waze: https://support.google.com/waze/answer/6262574?hl=en
If more people in Ireland use it, it will have more accurate prices. Same goes for routing and traffic - I find it better at learning things than Google Maps.

ironclaw

zilog_jones wrote: »

You'd be much better off entering the prices into Waze: https://support.google.com/waze/answer/6262574?hl=en
If more people in Ireland use it, it will have more accurate prices. Same goes for routing and traffic - I find it better at learning things than Google Maps.

Waze is owned by Google, they acquired it for the technology.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-google-bought-waze-the-inside-story-2015-8

But they don't actively share between the two platforms. Google Maps is more accurate at present in Ireland because nearly every Android and iPhone are reporting to Google Maps in the background as most people enable this option, or are unaware of it.

Waze doesn't really work in Ireland as we don't have good alternative routes. If you are going through Dublin, the only 'highway' is the M50. So the routing algorithms don't work very well. This is compared to the US and abroad where you have secondary, collectors and expresses that can actually make a huge difference.

As a last point, Waze hammers your battery. I have no idea why but its a huge draw.

I agree, more people should use it but it's better for alerts than saving time.

Dravokivich

Waze works for me, because I use it, when I don't know where I am, or going to and is much more informative than Google Maps. I'm not really interested in time savings.

ironclaw wrote: »

But they don't actively share between the two platforms. Google Maps is more accurate at present in Ireland because nearly every Android and iPhone are reporting to Google Maps in the background as most people enable this option, or are unaware of it.

Some aspects are shared, e.g. live traffic from Google Maps is being shared with Waze for Ireland, although the way Waze deals with this data means it won't appear in the exact same way. Incidents, road closures, etc. are also shared between the two depending on the situation.

Waze doesn't really work in Ireland as we don't have good alternative routes. If you are going through Dublin, the only 'highway' is the M50. So the routing algorithms don't work very well. This is compared to the US and abroad where you have secondary, collectors and expresses that can actually make a huge difference.

I'd disagree. Waze works about as well in Ireland as Google Maps does, which is often good but sometimes it suggests bad routes. But what I find is Waze tends to learn more quickly what is bad - the only downside is that you will have to attempt the routes it does suggest a few times so it records road speeds, etc. I found after taking a route which I knew was slower a couple of times, it stopped suggesting it.

Google Maps has some very inaccurate map data for Ireland in some places. It keeps suggesting to get to my workplace that I stop on a main road with no parking, with access blocked by a high fence and trees - when in fact I need to enter an industrial estate to get there. If Waze was routing this incorrectly (it does not), I could correct this fairly easily with the map editor. I've reported the issue to GMaps countless times and it's still broken. This isn't the only case I've seen where destinations are on wrong roads, inaccessible roads, etc.

As a last point, Waze hammers your battery. I have no idea why but its a huge draw.

Waze is doing more in a lot of ways, and provides more features, e.g. various alerts, fuel prices, speed limits, etc. I don't think it's as bad on battery as it used to be, but Google Maps while navigating isn't far off either.

JCDUB

I've tried to input fuel prices on Waze a couple of times and it just times out and doesn't update price.

Also prices only show up to the nearest 10 cent when I go looking for petrol, which is not helpful in the slightest.

Pity, potentially an awesome tool if it worked.

Del2005

JCDUB wrote: »

I've tried to input fuel prices on Waze a couple of times and it just times out and doesn't update price.

Also prices only show up to the nearest 10 cent when I go looking for petrol, which is not helpful in the slightest.

Pity, potentially an awesome tool if it worked.

The 10 cent jumps was a problem on the App which has been fixed, next time they are entered they will be correct. Haven't tried to input prices so can't mention the time out.

Yes, the decimal point issue has been fixed, which had other related issues around not being able to enter prices at all.

I put in fuel prices a couple of times in the past few weeks and it worked fine.

sligojoek

JCDUB wrote: »

I've tried to input fuel prices on Waze a couple of times and it just times out and doesn't update price.

Also prices only show up to the nearest 10 cent when I go looking for petrol, which is not helpful in the slightest.

Pity, potentially an awesome tool if it worked.

Are you a new user? I think you have to build up a few miles before you can input fuel prices.