Parishlad wrote: » Don't put him on the slats with the cows anyway. Too much of a chance that he'll be pucking the cows and cause one of them to lose a calf.
Sami23 wrote: » Just on bulls in general - what age would ye say a young bull would be fit to serve cows as thinking of buying a stock bull this year for the first time. Also any tips or advice on having a bull on the farm would be greatly appreciated. I'm just sick of trying to get cows in calf with AI and still ending up with empties every year. Tia
Jb1989 wrote: » Not trying to break your convo, but Just when this topic is open, I've a question, Had a reference of 20 cows at beginning of scheme, but due to a bit of a clear out, I've only 12 in calf, ready to drop. Will I get less money at the end of year, or will I have to pay back all money because I didn't meet the reference? Thanks
Hard Knocks wrote: » I know there’s a possibility but we never had a problem of the bull with incalf cows Other cows can be more of a problem
Sami23 wrote: » AFAIK you just need to have enough animals to genotype 60% of your reference number
Sami23 wrote: » Do you always leave the Bull on the slats with the cows as that would suit me if it was workable and to your point cows are devil's sometimes for pucking each other
High bike wrote: » prob depends on the bulls temperament, have done it for the last couple of years with no issues as he’s quiet
Jb1989 wrote: » Or else any corner of a field near the yard with a ring feeder and bit of shelter should suffice to out winter
Sami23 wrote: » Would they b happy enough on their own for the winter doing that
Hard Knocks wrote: » Do many put a chain on the bull anymore?
patsy_mccabe wrote: » Hard Knocks wrote: » Do many put a chain on the bull anymore? Never done it here. I think it would make them cranky. Plus they could get it caught up on something, like an electric fence. I never leave the bull on his own and always give him a wide berth in the field, never pat him on the head. I never go into his personal space - he never comes into mine. :rolleyes:
Grueller wrote: » Everyone here will tell me I am wrong but I have a blue bull and a limousin. Both of them go on a sheltered paddock together for the winter. Never mind fighting, I often see them licking each other. However once breeding starts they can't be within 2 fields of each other.
Limestone Cowboy wrote: » I put my 2 together for the winter aswell. Often seen them licking each other, no problem with them fighting either.
Sami23 wrote: » In shed or outwintered ?
Hard Knocks wrote: » Rams can be the same You should have great calves if you’re crossing those two breeds
anthony500_1 wrote: » I was in same boat here, not around enough to catch them bulling, was a pure disaster I went the opposite way to most and bought a 5yr old high star bull with great breeding cheap off done deal so bought off farm, I seen his calfs on the ground and was very happy with what I seen. This will be his 3rd season running with my cows and only reason I'll be getting rid of him is because I've kept all the heifers he produced. A good electric fence is the only way to stop him heading off to the neighbours bulling heifers but once it's on he won't even sniff over the wall at them. Biggest problem I have is after his job is done trying to find a corner to keep him in. Got caught the first year where I scanned the cows and once they were in calf put the bull back with them. One broke never spotted it and ended up with 1 calf 6mts after the rest. Not ideal in my own situation. There is not much in the line of stockmanship different to cows other than obviously never trust a bull etc keep an eye out on the likes of done deal and ask for the tag no, then check out his stars breeding etc on icbf bull search it will give you a good idea if the bull on paper at least will suit your herd before you ever go and look at him.
Tomjim wrote: » I rang ICBF, the problem is the bull was never genotyped ie tested, si I have to do that now
Tyson Lannister wrote: » I have the same problem - I kept one of my own pedigree bulls but just got a text that he needs to be Genotyped before 30 June - whats the fastest way of getting it sorted?
Bellview wrote: » You can order hair sample card online...you will have card in a day or two... pluck the hairs and post back. In fairness they are really prompt as I had to check sire of a calf a few weeks ago and I got answer in about 10 days
Hurling Hereford wrote: » May take a while longer following the 'bull letters' that issued to farmers earlier this week.
High bike wrote: » what letters was that?
tanko wrote: » Some of the rules about stock bull eligibility have been tweeked a bit. I dont have a bull so not sure what they are but theyre on the icbf.com homepage.
