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Fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris

namloc1980

Just saw it on Twitter. Absolutely devastating.

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kowloon

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Hopefully all money from the EU refused. The rebuild should be funded privately only. I have seen far too many iconic structures scarred with EU flags outside.

Strumms

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

Its amazing the rich French people are falling over themselves to donate money to fix a building.but poverty and homelessness are rife there to.i don't see the rich running to their aid.its a **** ing building.

Poverty and homelessness exist across the planet in every country and city on earth. Poverty and homelessness exist for multiple reasons, reasons that writing big fûck off cheques are not always going to come close to solving. That church wasn’t just a must see tourist magnet, it is a spiritual home and beacon of beauty that’s caters for and shelters the homeless and disenfranchised of Paris.

Franz Von Peppercorn

rossie1977 wrote: »

All in same area at La Defense

Tour Montparnasse stands completely alone at 689 foot

Proper city. Even the “low rise” is high rise by Dublin standards.

Franz Von Peppercorn

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The money that is being fired around is disturbing

I'm sure the peasants felt the same way when they started building it

I’d say they were very happy with the work.

Franz Von Peppercorn

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

I agree, i was only making the point to highlight how quickly media picks up on the rescue or revival of a western tragedy as opposed to a conflict area of the world.

You should start a thread on those atrocities when they happen and pledge some money.

SEPT 23 1989

kowloon wrote: »

In fairness the man has his beliefs and he sticks to them

Spanish Eyes

Thread descending to the Gargoyles.

Franz Von Peppercorn

I don’t get the upset with billionaires spending money. That money is either going to do two things.

1) stay in the billionaires bank account
2) be spent on the cathedral.

There’s no option 3. They have that money because they dont give to charity.

Don’t like billionaires having money? Tax then more. Want the money to go to the poor? Also more tax.

Still waters

Every cloud has a silver lining, it'll keep a lot of builders busy for years to come

Pretzill

An awful lot of money goes to charitable causes - a lot falls into the wrong hands and people still continue to suffer - I don't have a problem with the elite wanting to help restore this iconic building - the apple logo in stained glass may be a step too far though.

Roger_007

Pretzill wrote: »

An awful lot of money goes to charitable causes - a lot falls into the wrong hands and people still continue to suffer - I don't have a problem with the elite wanting to help restore this iconic building - the apple logo in stained glass may be a step too far though.

The 'forbidden fruit' features in many pieces of religious art, even with a bite,(byte), missing? It would be easy to slip it into a panel of a stained glass window.
Speaking of windows, has Bill Gates promised anything yet?

J Mysterio

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Hopefully all money from the EU refused. The rebuild should be funded privately only. I have seen far too many iconic structures scarred with EU flags outside.

Name one.

jimbobaloobob

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

You should start a thread on those atrocities when they happen and pledge some money.

Good man ill be sure to send you a link.

poisonated

Some people here giving out about people donating money to fix an iconic building. You can never win with some people.

gozunda

Roger_007 wrote: »

The 'forbidden fruit' features in many pieces of religious art, even with a bite,(byte), missing? It would be easy to slip it into a panel of a stained glass window.

Speaking of windows, has Bill Gates promised anything yet?

Nah he's probably to busy investing in his business of fake meat to sell to the masses so he can make his next fortune. Some day instead of 'steaks' we will all be eating 'fakes' and paying some mega corporation for the privilege. All smoke and mirrors for sure.

[Deleted User]

Remarkable little gif from inside.

https://www.reddit.com/comments/bdvwpz

Hoboo

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

. They have that money because they dont give to charity.

Billionaires have money because they don't give to charity? Really? They wouldn't avail of charitable trusts and tax benefits, lobbying through support of others charities, and the advantageous outcomes of a positive CSR strategy?

Nevermind generosity, philanthropy and generally being decent human beings.

They don't all live in evil lairs. Not even Denis O'Brien.

Tokyo

As bad as the fire was, the 5-year goal for repair does seem achievable, looking at the interior photos.

Effects

gozunda wrote: »

Nah he's probably to busy investing in his business of fake meat to sell to the masses so he can make his next fortune. Some day instead of 'steaks' we will all be eating 'fakes' and paying some mega corporation for the privilege. All smoke and mirrors for sure.

Can't believe you dragged you anti vegan/vege crap into this thread. Give it a rest mate.

smurgen

The amount of conspiracy theory crap coming out over this is just unbelievable.what the he'll is wrong with people.also trump is an idiot.and anyone suggesting helicopters is thick too.a dump of water would lead to a fast change in temperature for the stone masonry. Stone can crack or even explode if the go from hot to cold too fast.tge French firemen played a blinder.

Beechwoodspark

The real heroes are the firefighters who risked their lives in that crucial 30 min period where the entire structure was in imminent danger.

Chapeau!

gctest50

smurgen wrote: »

The amount of conspiracy theory crap coming out over this is just unbelievable.what the he'll is wrong with people.also trump is an idiot.and

anyone suggesting helicopters is thick too.a dump of water would lead to a fast change in temperature for the stone masonry

. Stone can crack or even explode if the go from hot to cold too fast.tge French firemen played a blinder.

smurgen wrote: »

anyone suggesting helicopters is thick too.
a dump of water would lead to a fast change in temperature for the stone masonry

The release of water, foam etc from a helicopter can be very controllable

like this :

So you can ram this insult :

smurgen wrote: »

anyone suggesting helicopters is thick too.

4ensic15

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

What burned and wasn’t reinstated? What new buildings went up?

Every building that survives the guts of a thousands years will have some restoration work done.

Most of the 4 courts complex is a replacement for the buildings that were there in 1922. The same goes for the GPO after 1916. The buildings were not repaired or renewed, they were replaced, apart from some feartures of the facades.

Wibbs

gctest50 wrote: »

The release of water, foam etc from a helicopter can be very controllable

like this :

So you can ram this insult :

He still has a point about thermal shock to stonework. Secondly going precise is a tad difficult flying a helicopter into a fire like that where the heat creates vicious thermals which could easily cause control issues, not so good in an urban environment and around a tall structure surrounded by smoke.

Still waters

gozunda wrote: »

Nah he's probably to busy investing in his business of fake meat to sell to the masses so he can make his next fortune. Some day instead of 'steaks' we will all be eating 'fakes' and paying some mega corporation for the privilege. All smoke and mirrors for sure.

Do you ever take a break from your role as Larry goodmans head man for global meat promotion

zell12

Interesting to see that ~1,000 people dead in the recent Cyclone Idai is viewed as less important than a building on fire.

smurgen

gctest50 wrote: »

The release of water, foam etc from a helicopter can be very controllable

like this :

So you can ram this insult :

That's a tree not limestone ésse! Sad for you.

MrMusician18

zell12 wrote: »

Interesting to see that ~1,000 people dead in the recent Cyclone Idai is viewed as less important than a building on fire.

Isn't it more interesting that the trials and tribulations of the FAI is viewed as more important than cyclone Idai.

What's local and relatable is always more important than that far away not relatable.

B0jangles

rossie1977 wrote: »

Smaller sure but the interior of Longford was completely destroyed which isn't the case with Notre Dame. I think 5 years that it can reopen to the public is an achievable timeline. Obviously you don't need the roof to be fully completed before reopening.

La Sagrada Familia is undergoing construction for last 100+ years and it's open to the public

I'm no builder so I could be talking rubbish, but I would have thought it would be a lot harder to rebuild a roof over a delicate and ancient interior than if you've got a straight run to ground level on both the inside and outside of the walls?

Hedgelayer

It's was an epic fire to say the least, must have gone up like paper.

Wood which was drying out for that length of time fire's up like an inferno.

They Will have some job on their hands sourcing the right timber if they are going to replicate the last design.

Wouldn't it be worse if it collapsed when full of tourists.