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* Motors chat - round 12 *

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This thread is for motoring topics which you feel are not worthy of starting a new thread for, banter from a meet or general motoring related chit chat.

Keep it clean, be nice and helpful.

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Round 11 is HERE

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bazz26

Just watched the last episode of this season's Grand Tour. It was a Mongola special and they had to assemble an all terrain type vehicle from 3 boxes parachuted down to them then drive it across a section of the Gobi desert finishing in a town called Moron. Thought it was a pretty good episode, the bromance between the 3 was strong in this one.

ShadowHearth

Dartz wrote: »

I don't understand why people insist on doing 66-70kph all the way along the N25

You're not driving any safer. Just slower.

Oh stop! I was driving back home from work around 22:00 and had met 4 people doing 70km/h on Cork Limerick road!!! One yaris was doing 50-60km/h!!! I thought Sunday drivers was a urban myth until I sow them all on the road last night.

ShadowHearth

Lads, is it me, or 2016-2018 hot hatches keeping and will keep their value a bit better then usual?
Thanks to new emissions tests anything new jumped up in price and tax band.

bazz26

They didn't just jump in price, some of them have reduced bhp too including the Golf R and Leon Cupra, both I think are down about 10bhp on previous versions.

ShadowHearth

bazz26 wrote: »

They didn't just jump in price, some of them have reduced bhp too including the Golf R and Leon Cupra, both I think are down about 10bhp on previous versions.

I thought current Cupra is still 300, but now only dsg. That's another side effect, very hard to get manuals as auto is lower emissions etc.

For same reason I bet we are not getting manual Polo gti. Only dsg available right now.

tossy

On my first DSG hot hatch after having a few manual ones, can't imagine ever gonig back to a manual again.

ELM327

Guys I think I am having some sort of midlife crisis or something.
After going to the swords show yesterday and seeing the blue scooby I find myself dreaming at Evo X's online.
I guess I am missing the jdm feel, havent had one since I sold my Z32 300ZX.

Actually evo 8 is quite ticking the box too
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mitsubishi-evo-8/21337065

ELM327

Terrible.
But assuming it's doable at home on a ramp/jack stands it can't be that bad.

Duke O Smiley

€2350 tax too

cadaliac

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

€2350 tax too

Christ almighty.
Thats working out to be one expensive car....

ShadowHearth

ELM327 wrote: »

Guys I think I am having some sort of midlife crisis or something.
After going to the swords show yesterday and seeing the blue scooby I find myself dreaming at Evo X's online.
I guess I am missing the jdm feel, havent had one since I sold my Z32 300ZX.

Actually evo 8 is quite ticking the box too
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mitsubishi-evo-8/21337065

I was always was a Subaru man over Evo.

It's a shame tax system completely destroyed them in Ireland. Nothing there past 07.

I presume it's even harder to keep Evo or Scooby on road these days. Insurance companies will just laugh in your face.

Skylinehead

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

€2350 tax too

Only post 08, 710 otherwise.

Tacitus Kilgore

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I was always was a Subaru man over Evo.
It's a shame tax system completely destroyed them in Ireland. Nothing there past 07.

I presume it's even harder to keep Evo or Scooby on road these days. Insurance companies will just laugh in your face.

99 and older stuff ain't too bad what with classic insurance though, could keep an evo 5 on the road for a grand or so a year now.

ELM327

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I was always was a Subaru man over Evo.
It's a shame tax system completely destroyed them in Ireland. Nothing there past 07.

I presume it's even harder to keep Evo or Scooby on road these days. Insurance companies will just laugh in your face.

Anything fun got ruined with that, RX8 was the same, 2350 tax on emissions, 1.3/1.7 tax on CC

Pre '08 there's a few but it's the evo X I particularly like. Won't pay 200 a month (!!) in tax though so I guess the evo 7/8 is the way to go to scratch that itch. Do any boardsies have one??

5500

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Lads, is it me, or 2016-2018 hot hatches keeping and will keep their value a bit better then usual?
Thanks to new emissions tests anything new jumped up in price and tax band.

I remember the same happening around 08 when the co2 tax came on board, I'd say it may stop some pulling the trigger, I was moving from my ctr to a cla45 amg for January gone, but wltp bumped the price about 10k and moved the merc into silly tax too. Interestingly though the civics emissions haven't changed under wltp for 2019, but arent additional increases due again this year?

ShadowHearth

5500 wrote: »

I remember the same happening around 08 when the co2 tax came on board, I'd say it may stop some pulling the trigger, I was moving from my ctr to a cla45 amg for January gone, but wltp bumped the price about 10k and moved the merc into silly tax too. Interestingly though the civics emissions haven't changed under wltp for 2019, but arent additional increases due again this year?

Leon Cupra went from 36k to 40k too. On the other hand it's only dsg now, so I guess price bump gone in to that too.
On the other hand, I presume some manufacturers we're more honest then others. No wonder all German brands had so many issues with new test.
I am keeping an eye on Leon Cupra, Skoda rs, golf GTI and all of them 2016-2017 keeping their prices very damn well. Funny enough golfs R dropping in price more then gtis. Tax band on Cupra 290 171 dsg is 390eu and 181 Cupra 300 dsg is 570eu, not sure about 191 yet. I know for me personally difference between 390 and 570 is feck all, but some people will have a fanny attack.

Wailin

I'm thinking if removing the rear seats permanently on the jimny as they will never be used and boot is tiny. Is this an nct fail lads? I can always put them back in for the nct if need be.

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Wailin wrote: »

I'm thinking if removing the rear seats permanently on the jimny as they will never be used and boot is tiny. Is this an nct fail lads? I can always put them back in for the nct if need be.

8. CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH
TO REFUSE TO ISSUE A TEST
CERTIFICATE
The circumstances in which the NCTS will refuse to issue
a test certificate are as follows:
• Where the person who presents the vehicle to be
tested fails to produce the required identification.
The owner and the Driver and Vehicle Computer
Services Division must be notified where there are any
discrepancies between the vehicle documentation or
N.C.T.S. vehicle file and the vehicle in the Make, Model,
Body type, EU Vehicle Category, VRT Vehicle Category,
Motor Taxation Class or number of seats.

Toyotafanboi

This was popular with Jap stuff years ago, maybe it still is.

It used to be the case that if the seats were removed, that the bolt threads for the seat base and seat belts had to be unusable so lads used to fill them with filler or weld a bolt into them etc and they would pass.

ShadowHearth

Got my insurance renewal... Payed 980eu last year, this year broker sent 1150eu from FBD ( who I was with 2 years now ), but they got AXA for 1001eu for me. After quick look online, there is nothing much better then that.
So fecking sick of paying 1k eu each year with 11ncb and not a single point on my license.

ELM327

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

This was popular with Jap stuff years ago, maybe it still is.

It used to be the case that if the seats were removed, that the bolt threads for the seat base and seat belts had to be unusable so lads used to fill them with filler or weld a bolt into them etc and they would pass.

That was for the commercial tax

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Got my insurance renewal... Payed 980eu last year, this year broker sent 1150eu from FBD ( who I was with 2 years now ), but they got AXA for 1001eu for me. After quick look online, there is nothing much better then that.
So fecking sick of paying 1k eu each year with 11ncb and not a single point on my license.

1k is pretty high, my pro rata 12 month insurance on a 14 year old e60 535d is around the same and I had an accident in 2017 and 5 penalty points

colm_mcm

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

This was popular with Jap stuff years ago, maybe it still is.

It used to be the case that if the seats were removed, that the bolt threads for the seat base and seat belts had to be unusable so lads used to fill them with filler or weld a bolt into them etc and they would pass.

That was for commercial conversions afaik.

Toyotafanboi

colm_mcm wrote: »

That was for commercial conversions afaik.

Was never into them :pac:, I recall it from lads doing it in Starlets and Corollas that were stripped out at the back, sounds like the idea stemmed from the commercial conversion thing initially.

ELM327

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Was never into them :pac:, I recall it from lads doing it in Starlets and Corollas that were stripped out at the back, sounds like the idea stemmed from the commercial conversion thing initially.

Either that or Max Power scene.

The likes of starlets/corollas wouldnt have even qualified for dodgy commercial tax

ShadowHearth

ELM327 wrote: »

That was for the commercial tax

1k is pretty high, my pro rata 12 month insurance on a 14 year old e60 535d is around the same and I had an accident in 2017 and 5 penalty points

The joys of living in Linerick. My insurance is 200eu higher just because where I live. Ironically car is used only 10% in actual city ffs.

joujoujou

Last time I was getting some ins. quotations, apart from my address and where car is left overnight they all asked what county/region car will mostly be driven. That changed now?

bazz26

Lads, a work colleague is looking at buying a used car from AIG Autos in Dunboyne, Co. Meath. Google returns very little other than they are in business around 7 years which is a plus I guess. Anyone know them or bought from them in the past?

wotzgoingon

ShadowHearth wrote: »

The joys of living in Linerick. My insurance is 200eu higher just because where I live. Ironically car is used only 10% in actual city ffs.

High car crime area, plus car is parked there at night when most crimes will occur.

wonski

joujoujou wrote: »

Last time I was getting some ins. quotations, apart from my address and where car is left overnight they all asked what county/region car will mostly be driven. That changed now?

Some do, some don't. It is one of those question that some can't even answer. Including me.

CIP4

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I thought current Cupra is still 300, but now only dsg. That's another side effect, very hard to get manuals as auto is lower emissions etc.

For same reason I bet we are not getting manual Polo gti. Only dsg available right now.

In 2017 and earlier they were 290 then went to 300bhp then sometime last year with all emissions issues they had to go back to 290 loads of people with 300s ordered ended up getting 290s instead. Think they are back to 300 again. I have driven a 290 DSG and not sure why you would want a manual one the DSG in them is class.