PerryB78 wrote: » I see property owners here could be hit with huge bills to pay for remedial work on their places here. Does anyone know who built these apartments?
handlemaster wrote: » id assume if you looked on line you would find that info
Homeowners in a complex where fire safety deficiencies have been discovered will have to pay up to €50,000 per home for remedial work, the Irish Examiner has learned. The deficiencies in the Verdemont Complex in Blanchardstown, Co Dublin, are by far the most costly uncovered since the building practices from the boom years were first uncovered in Priory Hall in 2011. Homeowners were told the cost of the remedial in the 274 apartments and duplexes could be between €12m and €14m. The deficiencies came to light following a fire in May 2017 in which around 100 residents had to temporarily leave their homes.
Jaster Rogue wrote: » https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/50k-bill-to-make-2001-homes-fire-safe-914569.html €50k is some chunk of change, I'd say the majority of owners there wouldn't have the means to put up that kinda cash. What happens if they can't pay? Some kind of lien placed on their property if they try to sell?
Jaster Rogue wrote: » €50k is some chunk of change, I'd say the majority of owners there wouldn't have the means to put up that kinda cash. What happens if they can't pay? Some kind of lien placed on their property if they try to sell?
The deficiencies in the Verdemont Complex in Blanchardstown, Co Dublin, are by far the most costly uncovered since the building practices from the boom years were first uncovered in Priory Hall in 2011. Homeowners were told the cost of the remedial in the 274 apartments and duplexes could be between €12m and €14m. The deficiencies came to light following a fire in May 2017 in which around 100 residents had to temporarily leave their homes. Subsequent investigations uncovered major problems with firestopping and compartmentalisation in the complex, which was built in 2001 by McInerney Construction. The firm went out of business in 2011. Following talks with Dublin Fire Brigade, fire wardens now patrol the complex 24/7 as a precaution in case of fire. The cost of such security is understood to be between €120,000 and €200,000 for which the owners are liable.A previous fire in the complex in 2002 resulted in two fatalities, but no action was taken against the developer on that occasion despite a senior garda recommending a prosecution. The jury at the inquest into the deaths of Mick Farrell, 23, and Louise Wall, 21, also expressed concern that there were safety problems in the complex but no further inspections were conducted.The fire safety deficiencies were only subsequently exposed in the 2017 fire. Families and friends of the deceased couple have for many years campaigned over what they claimed was the failure to properly determine whether the fire safety deficiencies could in any way have contributed to the deaths of their loved ones. Ms Wall’s mother, Margaret, told the Irish Examiner her daughter’s death has never been properly investigated and nobody has been held to account for how the couple died in their own home in the fire. “Every year goes by and we still have not had any questions answered about this,” she said.One campaigner, Tony Rochford, became so frustrated at the lack of a response from State agencies that he performed a publicity stunt on the M50 in 2017, for which he is currently serving a prison term.
Muahahaha wrote: » Interesting back story with these apartments and the man who climbed up upon the M50 gantries and did hundreds of thousands of damage to the tolling equipment. Turns out this was an act of protest at the Gardai not taking him seriously as to the fire risks in the apartment building. Turns out this guy Tony Rochford worked as a trademen on the initial build of the apartments. He reported his concerns about the building to Blanchardtown Gardai who sent him on a fools errand to Garda HQ in the Phoenix Park who then sent him to Cabra Garda who then sent him back to Blanch Gardai where he had started in the first place. He basically had the p1ss taken out of him by three different sets of Gardai so it was at that point he lost the plot and embarked on his M50 protest which involved a three hour stand off with the Blanch Gardai and it resulted in the entire southbound lane being shut down for several hours. Unbelievable stuff, would it really have killed them to take a statement about his concerns for fire safety in a building where two people had already died in a fire? Or at least refer him to the Chief Fire Officer instead of taking the p1ss out of him?
how.gareth wrote: » Probably a silly question but can the original director/owner not be held legally responsible for endangering lives?
Del2005 wrote: » How long was this complex completed before he decided to protest? Because there has been feck all building between the crash and his blocking the M50. Would he not have been better to protest when he was building them?
blanch152 wrote: » I notice that you didn't provide a link to this story, just did a cut and paste job and added a little bit of conspiracy theory to it. Can you provide the link?
Tony Rochford was at the end of his tether when he climbed the toll gantry on the M50 and cut wires on the system. It was 9.30pm on June 16, 2017.Earlier that day, he had gone to the gardaí with evidence of what he believed was a possible crime. He had acquired documents relating to the 2002 fire at the Verdemont complex, in which two people died. Rochford was working in the complex, as a tiler, at the time of the fire. He had started his own tiling business in 1997, and his experience in Verdemomt had led him to believe there were fire-safety defects there.He had been in touch with the family of Louise Wall, through Facebook, after he began investigating the aftermath of the fire. He had sympathy for their plight: They believed their daughter’s death could have been avoided. He had researched the case and acquired the file from the inquest into the two deaths. In May 2017, the second fire had occurred in Verdemont. On June 14, the fire in the Grenfell Tower in London had heightened his fears about fire safety in Irish construction, in general, and at Verdemont in particular. On the afternoon of June 16, he went first to the garda station in Blanchardstown, with what he believed was a file of evidence. They referred him to Garda HQ, in the Phoenix Park.From there, he was referred to Cabra station, which, in turn, told him to turn around and head back to Blanchardstown. A court would later hear that he felt he was getting “the runaround”.So Rochford decided to create a splash. He climbed up the gantry on the M50, as the cars and trucks whizzed by underneath.
Muahahaha wrote: » You're wrong blanch152, its all been publishedhttps://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/man-sabotaged-toll-to-highlight-fire-concerns-914533.html So he got the runaround from unprofessional Gardai in Blanch who thought they would have a laugh by sending him on a fools errand to Garda HQ in the Phoenix Park who then sent him to Cabra Gardai and who then sent him back to Blanch Gardai where he had started. Gardai deal with all sections of society every day and that includes people with mental health issues. That doesn't give them the right to take the p1ss out of someone who has legitimate concerns. Every citizen has the right to go into a Garda station and be treated professionally, heck its even in their Code of Conduct displayed in every station in the country. But I've no doubt you will defend unprofessional policing, as you've done many times on these Boards in the past. Would it have been so hard for them to give him the contact details of the Chief Fire Officer? Clearly it was :rolleyes:k
Muahahaha wrote: » Whos blaming the Gardai? He is clearly to blame for his own actions. I'm making the point that they treated him shoddily, a professional Garda would have dealt with the situation professionally as per their own code of conduct. Are you saying the Gardai in Blanch sending him on a fools errand to Phoenix Park HQ was the correct course of action? If you do then you're accepting of very low standards in AGS. Gardai get cranks calling into the station all the time, they are the frontline for this stuff. Its not their place to laugh at their expense, treat them with respect and send them on their way, this isn't rocket science.
Former Former wrote: » It seems you're taking everything this guy said at face value and as 100% accurate. I'd question the wisdom of that.
Muahahaha wrote: » What he said happened was said in an open court under oath and reported by the media.
Muahahaha wrote: » Are you claiming that he is lying about being sent to three different Garda stations and the Gardai witnesses in court didn't contradict him in their evidence and/or the media didn't report this contradiction? I'd question your own wisdom if you think the Gardai would allow him (or anyone) to make up lies about them and then let those lies go unchallenged in an open court room. I think it is pretty clear he is telling the truth about being sent to three different Garda stations and the Gardai didn't challenge him on this in court because a) they know he is telling the truth and b) CCTV evidence would prove he attended all three Garda stations. If he was lying on this then he would have been found out in open court, that simply didn't happen, ergo his story stacks up as far as the judge is concerned.
Muahahaha wrote: » So tell me, do you think the Gardai acted professionally by sending a man they clearly knew to have mental health issues on a fools errand, mocking him in the process? Would you be happy if they treated a member of your own family like that? Somehow I doubt it yet you havent condemned this unprofessional behaviour, instead you're being an apologist for it. Every citizen has a right to be treated professionally and with respect by the Gardai, it is literally written on the wall of every station in the country. Its not much to ask them to at least meet that minimum of standards but in this instance they clearly did not.
