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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2019

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BorneTobyWilde

Keita loves to run with ball, take a chance, link with front 3, go beyond front 3, and make runs into box, and maybe all of those things are the problem, maybe it's not what Klopp wants. But it looks good to me, as it's everything we're missing.

Muahahaha

jones wrote: »

I know it sounds stupid when you consider where liverpool are at this season but is anyone else worried about Klopps apparent lack of adaptability in games? The spurs game was a good example, Poc obviously copped onto what was happening and changed it and suddenly spurs started bossing the game. Klopp never seems to proactively change the way the team are playing - kind of like if plan A doesnt work just keep doing plan A kind of thing.

I dont mean to be over critical and i love Klopp but its something that bugs me (i'm sure he'll be devastated).

Am i over thinking this?

Love Klopp myself but feel that in-game management is his achilles heel. Last Sunday he obviously knew that Poch had changed formation but he doesn't react to it quick enough, even when our midfield is getting run over and Spurs were getting into the box at ease. It was the same in the EL final vs Seville, Emery changed shape at half time, Klopp didn't react and we got outplayed and lost 3-1.

noodler

Agent Coulson wrote: »

If there was any issue with his heart there is not a chance he would be near a match day squad.

He makes the bench week in week out.

This tbh.

I'm struggling to think of anything haleart related that'd be mild enough to still include him on the bench for insurance reasons.

RollieFingers

Hadn't heard about the heart before, could explain his lack of game time alright. Just to clarify, I'm not anti-Keita, was as excited as anyone about his arrival, he looked different class in Germany. And foreign player coming to a new league etc., he absolutely still deserves time to prove he can cut it. He's been below average for most of his time here though, there's no denying it, he just hasn't really done anything. We need more than that for the run-in.

garra

RollieFingers wrote: »

Keep Keita away from the starting 11, he has done nothing to justify inclusion for such important games. Gini, Fab, Milner, Lallana and Hendo all deserve starting places over him based on performances this season.

He's done nothing in previous performances is right, but it could be his time to shine. With Millie and Hendo needed fresh for Tuesday and Gini looking a bit tired of late, we need squad players like himself or Lallana to step up now. Just depends if Naby is showing it in training I suppose.

I reckon we'll bounce off these tonight.

Agent Coulson

If there was any issue with his heart there is not a chance he would be near a match day squad.

He makes the bench week in week out.

BullBlackNova

Fromvert wrote: »

He got a run of five games at the end of Jan/start of Feb and has barely been seen since. There has to be something going on either medical or he isn't doing what Klopp wants from him, not good enough etc. Honigstein also brought up last year when he fainted in training for RB and that when he came off against Napoli, Liverpool said it was a back issue, that was not what was rumoured in the Italy though. He didn't say what was rumoured though.

If you Google "Naby Keita heart", dozens of stories pop up about it apparently being a heart issue. Club denied it and said it has his back.

He did have some sort of medical setback during the season at Leipzig after we signed him but before he joined, didn't he? And his form went totally off the boil there around then too, iir.

That said, I googled and can't find anything to back the above up so maybe I've remembered it all wrong.

Fromvert

He got a run of five games at the end of Jan/start of Feb and has barely been seen since. There has to be something going on either medical or he isn't doing what Klopp wants from him, not good enough etc. Honigstein also brought up last year when he fainted in training for RB and that when he came off against Napoli, Liverpool said it was a back issue, that was not what was rumoured in the Italy though. He didn't say what was rumoured though.

noodler

Jesus's, thought Keita was quite decent in the last few games he started.

Was quite surprised at his complete lack of starts since.

ERG89

RollieFingers wrote: »

Keep Keita away from the starting 11, he has done nothing to justify inclusion for such important games.

Honigstein was talking about him on the TFS podcast yesterday. He was kinda hinting at his health not being great and said Liverpool were confused by his form.

Fromvert

I'm actually fairly confident about the next few games, the players have had lot of rests over the last few months, a game every few days might help us build up momentum for the final eleven games of the season, yes I said eleven!

- Southampton, in a nice run of form but they seem to be converting a lot of their shots on target lately, a higher percentage than I would expect from a team mid table and below. They also play a certain way and aren't going to try and defend for 90 minutes. We'll get plenty of chances today.

- Porto, I'll be really disappointed if we can't get through over the two legs, we're the better team and they may have improved from last year and won't be as naive but Liverpool have improved a lot more. Might be more cagey with them sitting back at Anfield but we'll win.

- Chelsea, this isn't Jose's Chelsea and Sarri isn't going to send them out to be spoilers with 10 men behind the ball, he's going to play the way they always play and they are beatable and have lost six away from home. We play at home Tuesday and they're away Thursday night so plenty of prep time for Klopp and the players before Sunday.

Three wins coming up lads!

RollieFingers

Keep Keita away from the starting 11, he has done nothing to justify inclusion for such important games. Gini, Fab, Milner, Lallana and Hendo all deserve starting places over him based on performances this season.

facehugger99

5starpool wrote: »

I'd like to see Keita, Fabinho, and Wijnaldum start tonight, but I doubt that will be it.

Keita hasn't done anything to justify starting a PL game - I'm as disappointed by that as anyone and am hopeful he can kick on next season.
Wijnaldum looked tired in the Spurs match I thought,

Wouldn't mind seeing Fab, Hendo and Lallana start in midfield tonight.

Hurrah for Friday night football!

noodler

I always worry Klopp leaves subs too late tbh.

Yeah, obviously we can point to where we are etc but you can't help feel (sometimes) that it would make our lives a little easier.

yourdeadwright

charolais0153 wrote: »

Lallana,hendo( or wij )and fab. Best foot forward

I think Wini needs a rest he played 90 minutes in both Holland games during the break,
He has been looking tired for a couple of weeks in my opinion , Henderson and Fabhino have had a good rests this season ,

D'Agger

BullBlackNova wrote: »

Anyone able to recommend a bar in Cork city that will be showing tonight's game? Didn't realise that there was a Munster match on and a few places seem to be showing that instead.

The Thomand bar will definitely have the Munster match on the main screens but they should have the 'pool game on too. Was there recently for Ireland v. France and they had the United Arsenal game on at the same time.

Harry Palmr

jones wrote: »

I know it sounds stupid when you consider where liverpool are at this season but is anyone else worried about Klopps apparent lack of adaptability in games? The spurs game was a good example, Poc obviously copped onto what was happening and changed it and suddenly spurs started bossing the game. Klopp never seems to proactively change the way the team are playing - kind of like if plan A doesnt work just keep doing plan A kind of thing.

I dont mean to be over critical and i love Klopp but its something that bugs me (i'm sure he'll be devastated).

Am i over thinking this?

I said during that game, and he did say something about tactical switching afterwards - basically that he should have reacted earlier to Poch's own tweak

jones

Ste- wrote: »

Given both teams standing I'd take Klopps Plan A.

A very good point

Ste-

jones wrote: »

I know it sounds stupid when you consider where liverpool are at this season but is anyone else worried about Klopps apparent lack of adaptability in games? The spurs game was a good example, Poc obviously copped onto what was happening and changed it and suddenly spurs started bossing the game. Klopp never seems to proactively change the way the team are playing - kind of like if plan A doesnt work just keep doing plan A kind of thing.

I dont mean to be over critical and i love Klopp but its something that bugs me (i'm sure he'll be devastated).

Am i over thinking this?

Given both teams standing I'd take Klopps Plan A.

BullBlackNova

Anyone able to recommend a bar in Cork city that will be showing tonight's game? Didn't realise that there was a Munster match on and a few places seem to be showing that instead.

jones

I know it sounds stupid when you consider where liverpool are at this season but is anyone else worried about Klopps apparent lack of adaptability in games? The spurs game was a good example, Poc obviously copped onto what was happening and changed it and suddenly spurs started bossing the game. Klopp never seems to proactively change the way the team are playing - kind of like if plan A doesnt work just keep doing plan A kind of thing.

I dont mean to be over critical and i love Klopp but its something that bugs me (i'm sure he'll be devastated).

Am i over thinking this?

charolais0153

Lallana,hendo( or wij )and fab. Best foot forward

BorneTobyWilde

Would hate to see too much of a shuffle, play the best team! Porto is a lesser game, can play the tea lady in that game!
We need 3pts, don't need to change it too much, Milner out, Fab in, GAME ON!

Fitz*

Forgot about the Milner having to play on Tuesday night actually.

Southampton aren't safe just yet but that win for them last week was very big, and they have some more winnable games coming up. I hope they put all their eggs into beating Huddersfield on the last day and then trying beat one of Watford, Newcastle or Bournmeouth in between them games to try and get to that 40 point mark.

5starpool

I'd like to see Keita, Fabinho, and Wijnaldum start tonight, but I doubt that will be it.

I'd say it'll be Milner, Lallana, Fabinho, with the other 8 as expected. If Klopp really wants to boil Southampton piss he'll play Lovren with van Dijk. I'm not sure there would be enough boos on the south coast to go around.

54and56

Charlie19 wrote: »

Yes but the original point was about seeing so many balls of the same colour dropping in a row. The way I was caught was something like 9 or 10 so I then start increasing by bet each spin, thinking that the opposite colour was bound to fall and after nearly 20 spins I was cleared out.

Think I'll just stay well clear of any roulette tables.

Have a read of "The Monte Carlo fallacy" and save yourself a few quid!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy

The White Wolf

Not even thinking about the match. Be grand. If not....**** it.

8-10

3pts only. Don't care how we get it.

Murdoc90

Expecting Southampton to take this game as a 'free hit' and really have a go tonight - which will suit us. Could do with an early goal to make a statement. I'm not able for another last minute winner!

citytillidie

The White Wolf wrote: »

Their hate is a good thing - it means we're back.

Anyone recall the Liverpool relegation party Facebook pages and the heartfelt comments of not wanting us to end like Leeds and that it won't be the same without us?

Yeah, I'll take the fume and hate and outrage all day every day.

Or the upset it caused other fans when Roy was sacked, and how Liverpool are unfair to do it and should keep him