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Mexico Vs Ulster ultimate epic super build up thread.

troyzer

Lads, I'm so miserable after this weekend that I have to move on and look forward to this game.

No matter how ****e we've been this year so far, at least one Irish team HAS to go through to the semi final of the Heineken Cup.

Hold me...

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troyzer

awec wrote: »

I heard Treadwell found Fardy buried in his back pocket on Sunday morning when throwing his shorts in the wash.

I heard Fardy was busy prepping for a semi final.

Treadwell wasn't.

Scythica

troyzer wrote: »

I heard Fardy was busy prepping for a semi final.

Treadwell wasn't.

He can't be preparing in a tumbledryer well

Paul Smeenus

Scythica wrote: »

He can't be preparing in a tumbledryer well

Treadwell's sending him back down south once Fardy's given the kitchen floor a mop.

[Deleted User]

Rename to 'new' build up thread please.

The Rape of Lucretia

Deleted User wrote: »

The best thing about the parity between the teams at the weekend is that Ulster are fairly decent again and we don't need to be on eggshells around Bliston anymore!

Well things really are evening up, with Leinster B now decamping from Dublin 4 to Ulster. Its still worth hanging onto the Ulster name for the moment I think though.

mfceiling

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Well things really are evening up, with Leinster B now decamping from Dublin 4 to Ulster. Its still worth hanging onto the Ulster name for the moment I think though.

Not bad...Not bad.

AbusesToilets

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Well things really are evening up, with Leinster B now decamping from Dublin 4 to Ulster. Its still worth hanging onto the Ulster name for the moment I think though.

Leinster C surely....

bilston

There must be some bad vibes in the Leinster camp given the number of players willing to get out of there to come to Ulster. I reckon Sexton's to blame. He's too shouty and must be horrible to play and train with

errlloyd

bilston wrote: »

There must be some bad vibes in the Leinster camp given the number of players willing to get out of there to come to Ulster. I reckon Sexton's to blame. He's too shouty and must be horrible to play and train with

I doubt it. The main players to leave are forwards. No backs other than shotgun have moved on. I doubt Jack would have left if he didn't think he was behind Ed Byrne and I doubt Jordi would have left if he had realised he was ahead of Conan.

molloyjh

bilston wrote: »

There must be some bad vibes in the Leinster camp given the number of players willing to get out of there to come to Ulster. I reckon Sexton's to blame. He's too shouty and must be horrible to play and train with

Reasonable effort. I could post a retort about players moving to Ulster once their international careers start to die, but I’m above that myself. :pac:

Clegg

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

My own personal favourite was "Fardy Vs Henderson: Even"

I'll give you Ringrose, but not having good that with Fardy. He was excellent last Saturday.

troyzer

Clegg wrote: »

I'll give you Ringrose, but not having good that with Fardy. He was excellent last Saturday.

I wouldn't put anything between them. They both played some of their best rugby of the season.

Can we just all agree that James Ryan is a ****ing freak though?

Paul Smeenus

Clegg wrote: »

I'll give you Ringrose, but not having good that with Fardy. He was excellent last Saturday.

He was.

Henderson was, and is, better.

There's no contradiction there.

troyzer

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

He was.

Henderson was, and is, better.

There's no contradiction there.

I'd disagree. Fardy's ruck work especially in the second half along with Ryan won the game. It was absolutely ferocious. Henderson was unreal in the first half, especially with his off the ball ****housing but he was mitigated quite a lot in the second half by the Leinster locks.

So Henderson gets the first half, Fardy gets the second half for me.

Paul Smeenus

troyzer wrote: »

I'd disagree. Fardy's ruck work especially in the second half along with Ryan won the game. It was absolutely ferocious. Henderson was unreal in the first half, especially with his off the ball ****housing but he was mitigated quite a lot in the second half by the Leinster locks.

So Henderson gets the first half, Fardy gets the second half for me.

Henderson was also captain after Best went off, and called a lineout that was more successful than Leinster's.

I think he was better on a team that wasn't as good.

Clegg

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

He was.

Henderson was, and is, better.

There's no contradiction there.

There's not much between them quality wise.

Paul Smeenus

Clegg wrote: »

There's not much between them quality wise.

Do you not get that I disagree?

Jesus.

Clegg

Clegg wrote: »

H2H

Healy v O'Sullivan: Adv Leinster
Cronin v Best: Adv Leinster
Furlong v Moore: Adv Leinster
Fardy v Henderson: Adv Leinster
Ryan v Treadwell: Adv Leinster
Ruddock v Timoney: Adv Leinster
SoB v Murphy: Adv Leinster
Conan v Coetzee: Adv Leinster
McGrath v Cooney: Adv Leinster
Byrne v Burns: Adv Leinster
Kearney v Stockdale: Adv Leinster
RoL v McCloskey: Adv Leinster
Ringrose v Cave: LOL
Byrne v Balacoune: Adv Leinster
Larmour v Lowry: Adv Leinster

This panned out just as predicted.

Clegg

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

Do you not get that I disagree?

Jesus.

I do actually. Which is why I replied.

Jesus.

Paul Smeenus

Clegg wrote: »

I do actually. Which is why I replied.

Jesus.

For "replied" read "repeated myself endlessly".

Christ.

troyzer

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

For "replied" read "repeated myself endlessly".

Christ.

Jesus.

Christ.

Superstar.

Paul Smeenus

troyzer wrote: »

Jesus.

Christ.

Superstar.

I think you'll find its -

Geordie Best.

Superstar.

Runs like a woman and he wears a bra.

Clegg

troyzer wrote: »

I wouldn't put anything between them. They both played some of their best rugby of the season.

Can we just all agree that James Ryan is a ****ing freak though?

Agreed on Ryan.

Been obvious since the Montpellier game early last season. Wasn't in the named 23 but came in last minute for Fardy. Then was the best player on the pitch.

troyzer

Clegg wrote: »

Agreed on Ryan.

Been obvious since the Montpellier game early last season. Wasn't in the named 23 but came in last minute for Fardy. Then was the best player on the pitch.

https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/1113381724774436864?s=20

awec

Ryan makes that tackle and pretty much just dives on top of the ruck. You seem to see that a lot these days from all teams.

sydthebeat

awec wrote: »

Ryan makes that tackle and pretty much just dives on top of the ruck. You seem to see that a lot these days from all teams.

nah, he gets back to his feet and challenges for the ball through the middle of the ruck.. wheres hes rucked off...nothing at all wrong with that series of events.

Clegg

Poor Jordi regretting all his recent life choices.

Squidgy Black

awec wrote: »

Ryan makes that tackle and pretty much just dives on top of the ruck. You seem to see that a lot these days from all teams.

I mean, he tackles the player, releases and then drives through the ruck. It just looks poor because he falls on top of the ruck.

What really infuriates me is the diving clearouts that seems to be a completely acceptable thing from the attacking team now, where the player just flings himself into the ruck to clear out a player off his feet and then lands on top of the ruck.

Paul Smeenus

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I mean, he tackles the player, releases and then drives through the ruck. It just looks poor because he falls on top of the ruck.

What really infuriates me is the diving clearouts that seems to be a completely acceptable thing from the attacking team now, where the player just flings himself into the ruck to clear out a player off his feet and then lands on top of the ruck.

Completely agree with this. Players torpedoing all over the show, then gumming up the ruck.

The other thing that frustrates me at the moment - and we saw Wales doing it a lot in the Six Nations, amongst other teams - is one player latching on in a tackle, not fighting much to put the ball-carrier to ground, but their team-mate coming in and going straight for the ball, before, in my eyes, the carrier is actually tackled. I think allowing the ball to be ripped in a tackle is making for a lot of inconsistency. ROL ripping the ball from McCloskey and it being given as a knock-on, for example.

bilston

Clegg wrote: »

Agreed on Ryan.

Been obvious since the Montpellier game early last season. Wasn't in the named 23 but came in last minute for Fardy. Then was the best player on the pitch.

Ryan is the new POM...if in doubt just give him MOTM whether he deserves it or not. Like it was obvious that Henderson was the best second row on the pitch against France...yet Ryan got MOTM.