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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

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The comparison was silly. Walsh could be argued as the worst of those three and Mayo sacrificed their best player on Saturday to follow him everywhere. If Walsh jumped into the first row of concrete benches around the edge, Keegan would've hopped in beside him. Hardly conductive to getting easy space and ball

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Well over all I think that was a good league from Mayo.

They got off to a good start so there was no relegation fears like previous season.

They had good away wins v Tyrone and Kerry and they beat Kerry again a few week later.
And the home form was good.

They used plenty of new players and seem to have found some good ones too in the likes of Plunket, Ruane, and McDonagh.
Even as late as the final Horan was introducing new players and James Carr had a great debuted on Sunday.
The redemption of Robbie Hennely was great to see, really good to have two guys neck and neck for that jersey.
Fergal Boland really contributed down the stretch, even though I was cursing him in the first half of the final not being too quick to fist over points when goals might have been on.

It makes a great change from relegation battles and trying to find positives in what are often bad outings.

On the flip side I think we have to look at negatives also

Could not beat Galway, could not break them down, that was depressing

Were really poor v Dublin, whether that was a game that they really did not target it's hard to know, but it would have been good to have kept the momentum going at the time.

It's also unfortunate to see the likes of Loftus not develop and make a shirt his own, and the continued lack of form from Regan

This thread swung from being in a league final after two games to not being able to beat Roscommon come summer after five, and in the end they ended up winning it, which none of us really expected.

Well done Mayo.

seligehgit

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Coillte_Bhoy

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Is it just me but id be quite happy without making a league final and all the hype an ****e that would bring etc. The target is a Connacht final win and the super 8's, i dont think a league final does anything to help that.

Well i've change my tune i can tell you.

PressRun

Suarezistheman wrote: »

I've been an advocate of Hennelly for the longest time. Those booming kick-outs are required in Croke Park, end of story. He got us up the pitch countless times. Horan has instilled confidence back into his game and you can see it in his performances. I am absolutely delighted for him because you can be sure he has been to hell and back.

Yes indeed. I felt watching it back he looked a little nervy at the start, but he settled nicely and finished the game out strongly. He seems to have a good connection with O'Shea in the middle. He slowly seems to be regaining his confidence.
I am of the belief that Horan favours Hennelly in goals and will pick him come championship. I think the kickouts are more important for the running game.

PARlance

Stoner wrote: »

Wouldn't necessarily agree. That's a good Kerry team that wanted to win, had the wakeup call recently too.

As suggested on other threads they might have an issue in the final stages of games. It could well be a factor. It was well worth testing the 2018 Kerry to the very end. Many talk about it being a fittness thing, but it might be a head issue. These new Kerry lads will have to put it to bed though.

They will come on as they've talent coming through but if I was from Kerry I wouldn't be happy with the fact that they haven't really addressed their defensive issues... which have been there for all to see, for a few years.

They've also been losing ground on the S&C front. Mattie Ruane lifting their Diarmuid O'C off the ground by the collar towards the end (when their DO'C got his second yellow) sums that up for me. 2 new lads to both teams, in the same position but a massive gulf in strength.

The longer Buckley is there the better they will get. But tactically they have me puzzled. Started the league with a blanket and it was getting results but they seemed to move away from that as the league went on. That was mirrored in yesterday's match, we really struggled when they sat back in the first half... we were running up blind alleys from 10-25 mins... but then they let it open up in the 2nd half.

NabyLadistheman

Sebastian Dangerfield wrote: »

Anyone else think O'Shea looks a good bit lighter? I don't think he'd have gotten around the field like that last year

O'Shea is definitely leaner, lost a good few KG's Id say. Hennelly and a few others have shed pounds as well. Great stuff form Horan and his backroom team. I thought after the frantic 20 minutes burst after half-time both teams were getting a breather for a big finish. Mayo finished full of running & Kerry tired quicker. Amazing to have the likes of Boyler & Andy to spring form the bench. Never had anything like those options previously.

Stoner wrote: »

It was a good moment for Hennelly too.

I've been an advocate of Hennelly for the longest time. Those booming kick-outs are required in Croke Park, end of story. He got us up the pitch countless times. Horan has instilled confidence back into his game and you can see it in his performances. I am absolutely delighted for him because you can be sure he has been to hell and back.

PressRun

Stoner wrote: »

Wouldn't necessarily agree. That's a good Kerry team that wanted to win, had the wakeup call recently too.

As suggested on other threads they might have an issue in the final stages of games. It could well be a factor. It was well worth testing the 2018 Kerry to the very end. Many talk about it being a fittness thing, but it might be a head issue. These new Kerry lads will have to put it to bed though.

Managed to watch the game back and I definitely think a big part of it is fitness. They were huffing and puffing in the last 10, and very disorganised, like they'd run out of legs to support each other. A couple of players seemed to be standing off the tackle too. I actually felt we bullied them a little, physically, looking back on it.

Stoner

grbear wrote:

Yesterday certainly makes the summer look much more interesting. Plainly winning meant more to Mayo than Kerry and it'll be interesting to see just how much it brings them on.

Wouldn't necessarily agree. That's a good Kerry team that wanted to win, had the wakeup call recently too.

As suggested on other threads they might have an issue in the final stages of games. It could well be a factor. It was well worth testing the 2018 Kerry to the very end. Many talk about it being a fittness thing, but it might be a head issue. These new Kerry lads will have to put it to bed though.

Stoner

Suarezistheman wrote:

Big moment for me was when Aido got a yellow for a tussle in the middle of the field. Some Kerry guy hanging out of him on our kick-out. He was straight onto Hennelly - "down on top of me please" Up he went and plucked it, such defiance. Massive statement of intent.

Agreed.

Just to pop in with my big spoon.

It was a good moment for Hennelly too.

Call me Al

grbear wrote: »

Yesterday certainly makes the summer look much more interesting. Plainly winning meant more to Mayo than Kerry and it'll be interesting to see just how much it brings them on.

...

I agree with some of what you wrote. But!
I keep reading about how it meant so so much to Mayo as if we had the monopoly on that motivation. Kerry played out of their skins yesterday. They wanted to win every bit as much as we did.
The want or need to win had nothing to do with the score. We have beaten them twice in a week and, are a better team. That's why we won.

HBC08

sliabh 1956 wrote: »

Those stewarts have no cop on maye Mayo should have had Parsons inside on the bench with the subs. The second coming of Kerry is not what we have been led to beleve they are quite ordinary even after Mayo gifted them two Goals If Mayo had lost Shamie would have been savaged what a brain thing to do . Then after the match he is up in the stand kissing his partner . Great man for the limelight is our
Shamie.

Whats a "Shamie"?
Somebody from Tuam?

charlie14

franklyon wrote: »

Would have been slaughtered though if he had missed. Think it was just himself who thought going for goal was the best option. Still delighted for him of course.

James Horan`s facial expressions do not give much away doing a game, but had there been a camera on him at the time I think the expression would have been the same as any manager from u12 up in the same situation.
The one that says "Oooh f**K he is going for goal"

PARlance

Green&Red wrote: »

Was thinking that, as he was sent off he lifted his top to wipe himself, serious shape, he looks to have done a lot more core work and cut down on the fat percentage. I see him in work and he looks a lot leaner

A rare sighting in work!

Green&Red

MfMan wrote: »

I'm sure Sligo harbour you no ill will.
As a Galway man I'm delighted. Anytime Kerry are beaten is a good time (see Corca Duibhne beaten by Naas in the colleges too on Saturday.) Mayo's win will add spice to the c'ship and Salthill, if it comes to pass, should be a great day out. It might buck up Kevin Walsh a bit too and help him see the light a bit.

I know us winning a final in CP could be seen as a miracle but theres no way it could lead to this

MfMan

km79 wrote: »

The thread was overrunn with well wishers rather than trolls after a final for once

Could get used to this winning craic
Not much love from our near neighbors though

I'm sure Sligo harbour you no ill will.
As a Galway man I'm delighted. Anytime Kerry are beaten is a good time (see Corca Duibhne beaten by Naas in the colleges too on Saturday.) Mayo's win will add spice to the c'ship and Salthill, if it comes to pass, should be a great day out. It might buck up Kevin Walsh a bit too and help him see the light a bit.

Kalyke

I think we should stick with the blue jersey from now on!!

Green&Red

Sebastian Dangerfield wrote: »

Anyone else think O'Shea looks a good bit lighter? I don't think he'd have gotten around the field like that last year

Was thinking that, as he was sent off he lifted his top to wipe himself, serious shape, he looks to have done a lot more core work and cut down on the fat percentage. I see him in work and he looks a lot leaner

Panrich

Sebastian Dangerfield wrote: »

Anyone else think O'Shea looks a good bit lighter? I don't think he'd have gotten around the field like that last year

I thought that myself as well. He's definitely moving better.

Sebastian Dangerfield

Anyone else think O'Shea looks a good bit lighter? I don't think he'd have gotten around the field like that last year

grbear

Congratulations on yesterdays win. It's not the All-Ireland but you could tell it meant an awful lot to the players to have finally won a national title.

-Aidan O'Shea was just class yesterday with a relatively minor blip for the yellow near the end.

-Ruanes emergence at midfield looks like it's killed the idea of playing Diarmuid O'Connor at midfield which is (annoyingly) a massive plus for Mayo. O'Connor is well able to do a job in the middle as a solid midfielder but he is a great forward.

Yesterday certainly makes the summer look much more interesting. Plainly winning meant more to Mayo than Kerry and it'll be interesting to see just how much it brings them on.

And also how they react to losing to Galway in Connacht again....

franklyon

PressRun wrote: »

Watched a clip of the Treacy goal - very brave thing to do! Fair play to him, ballsy enough :pac:

Would have been slaughtered though if he had missed. Think it was just himself who thought going for goal was the best option. Still delighted for him of course.

BandMember

seligehgit wrote: »

Brian Reape,Conor Loftus,Eoin O Donoghue,Jason Gibbons and Caolan Crowe all lined out for their clubs.No James Durcan either.

O Donoghue is well capable of starting come championship IMO.

Very surprised he's not in the match day squad.

I would have included Reape or Loftus ahead of Conor O Shea.The wide expanses of Croker would suit the playing style of an at the moment undercooked Conor Loftus. TBF Conor O Shea must be flying in training,so perhaps it was easy call as James Horan has emphasised the fact that his selections will be based on current form/what he's seeing in training.

Cian Hanley,Evan Regan and Ryan O Donoghue are still injured.

ATM all the young Westport lads have disappeared off the radar...Colm Moran etc.

Shane Nally appears to be out in the cold.

You forgot to add Seamie and Ger Caff to the injury list while there's one or two others in the training panel who haven't figured at all. Yet. I say yet because if Horan proved one thing at the weekend with his selection of Carr, it's never too late for anyone to make a break through.

Still though, we've the most limited panel of the top teams in the country, the same old faces year after year, no strength in depth, too many miles on the clock, over the hill etc. etc. etc. Well, according to the media anyway..... :rolleyes:

PressRun

Suarezistheman wrote: »

Big moment for me was when Aido got a yellow for a tussle in the middle of the field. Some Kerry guy hanging out of him on our kick-out. He was straight onto Hennelly - "down on top of me please" Up he went and plucked it, such defiance. Massive statement of intent.

Let this be the end of his best position debate. Been sensational since moving back into midfield. His pass into Carr for his goal chance was outragous, along with 3 or 4 other kick passes. His tacking is the best in the business, some of his dispossessions are incredible. What a player

I've long believed midfield is absolutely his best position too. People got carried away with the full forward stuff, but he has always been a classic midfielder and it's clearly the position he feels most comfortable in and where he can have the most influence. The partnership struck up between himself and Ruane has been the best thing about this league campaign, for me.

Watched a clip of the Treacy goal - very brave thing to do! Nearly like the kind of reckless abandon you'd see in an underage match. I think most senior coaches would be telling you to take your point. Fair play to him, ballsy enough :pac:

Euphoriasean

Suarezistheman wrote: »

Big moment for me was when Aido got a yellow for a tussle in the middle of the field. Some Kerry guy hanging out of him on our kick-out. He was straight onto Hennelly - "down on top of me please" Up he went and plucked it, such defiance. Massive statement of intent.

Let this be the end of his best position debate. Been sensational since moving back into midfield. His pass into Carr for his goal chance was outragous, along with 3 or 4 other kick passes. His tacking is the best in the business, some of his dispossessions are incredible. What a player

That pass was a thing of beauty. Was right behind it. Pity Carr couldn't have finished it, it would have been some goal. He's had a super league campaign.

NabyLadistheman

Big moment for me was when Aido got a yellow for a tussle in the middle of the field. Some Kerry guy hanging out of him on our kick-out. He was straight onto Hennelly - "down on top of me please" Up he went and plucked it, such defiance. Massive statement of intent.

Let this be the end of his best position debate. Been sensational since moving back into midfield. His pass into Carr for his goal chance was outragous, along with 3 or 4 other kick passes. His tacking is the best in the business, some of his dispossessions are incredible. What a player

NabyLadistheman

sliabh 1956 wrote: »

Those stewarts have no cop on maye Mayo should have had Parsons inside on the bench with the subs. The second coming of Kerry is not what we have been led to beleve they are quite ordinary even after Mayo gifted them two Goals If Mayo had lost Shamie would have been savaged what a brain thing to do . Then after the match he is up in the stand kissing his partner . Great man for the limelight is our
Shamie.

Can't let this go without commenting. Idiot

charlie14

Congratulations lads and lassies. I imagine there are a few sore heads around the county this morning. There life in the old dog yet

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Tbh I don`t think James Horan or the team will be getting too carried away with winning the league as it is not what this group is about, but it is a great boost for the team and especially the supporters going into the championship with the cross of Croke Park finals off their backs.
People will have their own opinions where this game was win, but for me it was down to a man I have often criticised in the past, A O`Shea and his mid-field partner Ruane. Yesterday both were outstanding.

km79

The thread was overrunn with well wishers rather than trolls after a final for once

Could get used to this winning craic
Not much love from our near neighbors though

Green&Red

sliabh 1956 wrote: »

Those stewarts have no cop on maye Mayo should have had Parsons inside on the bench with the subs. The second coming of Kerry is not what we have been led to beleve they are quite ordinary even after Mayo gifted them two Goals If Mayo had lost Shamie would have been savaged what a brain thing to do . Then after the match he is up in the stand kissing his partner . Great man for the limelight is our
Shamie.

Didn't realise Bernard Flynn was on boards
Imagine the cheek of AOS kissing his GF after winning the league, the f**king gall, I hope Horan disciplines him
Andy is another one, with his kids on the pitch, where does he think hes off to

Bunny Colvin