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'Real' DJs - what do they do

magic_murph

All these world famous DJ's playing gigs and busting out the tunes.
They spend the entire set twisting knobs and moving dials.

Are they really making a difference?
I guess they have to fade in or mix one song into the next but after that are they actually changing anything we hear or are they the ultimate spoofers?

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SEPT 23 1989

DelBoy Trotter

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Anyone remember pulse 103fm? Frankkkk Kennedy :pac:

I remember it well! I loved that station and listened to it consistently for the 4+ years it was on air. I was devastated when they went off air to apply for a licence and never got one

GinAndBitter

DelBoy Trotter wrote: »

I remember it well! I loved that station and listened to it consistently for the 4+ years it was on air. I was devastated when they went off air to apply for a licence and never got one !

Oul Frank was done for tax evasion aswell as far as I remember, ah the temple theatre days, some craic. Left that place in some states, walking up the canal to the Finglas. Good times.

DelBoy Trotter

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Oul Frank was done for tax evasion aswell as far as I remember, ah the temple theatre days, some craic. Left that place in some states, walking up the canal to the Finglas. Good times.

I was a couple of year too young for the nights out at the time unfortunately. It sounded like I missed out on a brilliant time for nights out for dance/trance music

GinAndBitter

DelBoy Trotter wrote: »

I was a couple of year too young for the nights out at the time unfortunately. It sounded like I missed out on a brilliant time for nights out for dance/trance music

Caught the tail end of it myself, just as Mauro Picotto was making the switch from Trance to Techno. Deadly venue.

James Brown

If you're not live mixing you're playing a sound file/CD and all the dancing in the world doesn't change that. The bigger the DJ the more it's about celebrity rather than any mixing.

limnam

Patty Hearst wrote: »

Check out this Jeff Mills mix to see some proper old school mixing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtw2-kL32YM&t=256s

That was probably a bad example, he's all over the shop...

[Deleted User]

Lorelli! wrote: »

There's 2manydjs op!

Love this photo

Boom_Bap

How about this photo, a mate of mine took it and even won an award for it

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Will I Am Not

There’s a skill in “just twisting knobs and stuff”...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk08vk8Pt0o

Ray Palmer

I used to work in night clubs behind the bar. On several occasions I took over for the DJs as I was very friendly with them. Got the whole matching beats and mixing thing relatively easy. The main problem was I hated the music because it is actually very boring and relative not unlike trash metal in many ways.
Anyway I met and talked with most of the big European DJs of the 90s as they all played in venues I worked in. Had lunch with Carl Cox and we spoke about funk and progress rock. Nice bloke as were most of them. The only acts I had an issue with were Sulton of Ping and the Frames. Ping were just rude and messy while Glen in the Frames just had a bad day and didn't like the fact he had limited list of people on the guest list.

GinAndBitter

Will I Am Not wrote: »

There’s a skill in “just twisting knobs and stuff”...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk08vk8Pt0o

BOSH!

eeloe

limnam wrote: »

That was probably a bad example, he's all over the shop...

This is one of the best examples of 3 deck techno there is...what's all over the shop about it?

eeloe

Will I Am Not wrote: »

There’s a skill in “just twisting knobs and stuff”...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk08vk8Pt0o

Years i've been trying to do this...years!

Not even close.

Ipso

Maniac 2000 was the zenith of deejaying.

pleas advice

limnam wrote: »

That was probably a bad example, he's all over the shop...

quit ****in around and just let the tune play

pleas advice

Ipso wrote: »

Maniac 2000 was the zenith of deejaying.

emceeing

Gentleman Off The Pitch

eeloe wrote: »

This is one of the best examples of 3 deck techno there is...what's all over the shop about it?

I listened to a few minutes after the start time in the link (256s) and the first mix after that gets away from him and he has to bale out, around 5:20

BalcombeSt4

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Anytime a discussion about modern music comes up you see the Hotpress-reading auld fellas shuffle in with their double denim outfits and soul patches, telling everyone that the young people wouldn't "get it" if they weren't at Féile 92.

I'm not a fan of electronic music myself but I'd rather my kids go deaf listening to that ****e than listen to the maudlin guff you'd hear from the "Rizla days and stratocasters" crowd.

Have no clue what you are on about & I don't I've ever remember seen anyone with soul patches or denim outfits at the Olympic or Ormond. The OP asked a question about DJing an the difference between today & back in the day.

Anyway, I'm a huge Mark Kavanagh fan, I listned to some new (well 2012) remixes he did of his "Bad Boy" track which was a big Abbey Discs hit around 1999, and Yo Yo - Ga Ga remix, they were good but not bad, but just too much stuff going on, over produced, I wouldn''t say it ruined the songs but they could not match up to the Original 1999 mixes one little bit. I loved his Club Mix show & his Baby Doll label,

Mr. Spring as well, him & Mark did the Sound Crowd records from 1992 - 1996, and think they did Liquid Wheel or it could have been Johnny Moy or someone like that, but Red Records was without a doubt Ireland's greatest dance records label, great, Progressive & Piano House, Techno & Hard & Acid Trance.

Here's a tour of Tony De Vit's studio from 1998, you can see you actually needed a bit of hardware to make a decent record, not just a cheap bit of software prorgrame you can download on to your iPhone . He even says in the interview the analoge machines make the best sounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ3W-XGkq2o

Ipso

pleas advice wrote: »

emceeing

Whatver. They both do a lot for charidee.

Sephiroth_dude

magic_murph wrote: »

All these world famous DJ's playing gigs and busting out the tunes.
They spend the entire set twisting knobs and moving dials.

Are they really making a difference?
I guess they have to fade in or mix one song into the next but after that are they actually changing anything we hear or are they the ultimate spoofers?

Dj's can now manipulate live tracks, so that probably where a lot of the knob turning comes from, looping etc, they don't really have to beat match anymore as its done for them with the push of a button, so manipulating tracks is what they spend a lot their time doing I'd say.

SEPT 23 1989

This is how it's done

Classic example of "im am completely ignorant of this skill, therefore it must be easy"

DJing and electronic music production are far from simple and certainly not just pressing a few buttons on a computer or twisting a few knobs on a mixer.

Marty Bird

limnam wrote: »

That was probably a bad example, he's all over the shop...

I was going to say the same. I always found Mills to be bluffing with the hand movements when you look closely he is not doing anything and his mixing is very loose at times. All the big EDM lads play pre recorded sets and stand and jump about and nothing more.

AndyBoBandy

This is a great mix from a few years ago.

Hawtin long since gave up on turntables, but he's still playing regular tunes, and just looping/effecting/re-editing them to fcuk!! So I'd believe every knob twist or button press is doing something that you can hear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY9S2jGFNrA

MadYaker

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Leftfield's Leftism (and by extension Rhythm & Stealth) & Daft Punk's Homework, I would consider to be seminal works in the history of dance music, and still today sound as fresh and as amazing as they ever did.

Maybe nowadays in the age of David Guetta and the likes, it has simply become Pop Dance, and like all the generic pop rubbish of today, it will not stand the test of time.

David Guetta :pac: nobody who has any idea of what good music is takes David Guetta seriously. Go and listen to Jon Hopkins most recent album

Skylinehead

MadYaker wrote: »

David Guetta :pac: nobody who has any idea of what good music is takes David Guetta seriously. Go and listen to Jon Hopkins most recent album

That was his point

Arghus

I love these after hours threads where someone comes in with a raging hot take and is met with people who actually know what's what with the subject.

iioklo

https://youtu.be/jN8DfKP2-CE