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'Real' DJs - what do they do

magic_murph

All these world famous DJ's playing gigs and busting out the tunes.
They spend the entire set twisting knobs and moving dials.

Are they really making a difference?
I guess they have to fade in or mix one song into the next but after that are they actually changing anything we hear or are they the ultimate spoofers?

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AndyBoBandy

They would mostly be playing pre-recorded sets, with the ability to loop certain parts of songs, and add certain effects on the fly.

knob twisting can be increasing or decreasing bass/treble etc, and also used for effect strength.

Oh yeah, they also dance a lot.

Patty Hearst

magic_murph wrote: »

All these world famous DJ's playing gigs and busting out the tunes.
They spend the entire set twisting knobs and moving dials.

Are they really making a difference?
I guess they have to fade in or mix one song into the next but after that are they actually changing anything we hear or are they the ultimate spoofers?

Check out this Jeff Mills mix to see some proper old school mixing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtw2-kL32YM&t=256s

Cienciano

dj khaled gets someone to play a cd and he shouts his name over and over again.

You know you're getting old when talk like that btw. In the 90's, my mates dad used to call dance music "robot music"

geotrig

Dave Clarke and the likes ,When twisting knobs and hitting buttons is actually doing stuff ....some of these trendier :rolleyes: djs's well I think it all about the show and may be prerecorded !

AndyBoBandy

Back in the day there were some exceptional Techno DJ's that would play 3 decks, the likes of Jeff Mills (above), Adam Beyer, Surgeon etc... That was real DJing

Nowadays its all done on computers, with CDJ's thrown in.

Back when I went digital, I still used Serato Softwre/Vinyl on my Technics 1210's, as in my opinion, nothing beats a pair of turntables with an actual vinyl record on them.

I also have a huge collection of original vinyl* going back to the 60's that I shall keep forever.

*A highlight of using original vinyl was Boom Bap's brothers engagement party , and when the question was officially popped at/for the party, I immediately followed it with Queen's 'Another One Bites the Dust' on 7 inch.

francois

A lot of the sets are pre-programmed to sync with the light show-Don't get me started on Steve Aoki, a cake tossing tool. A lot of serious electronic music fans wouldn't bother with this EDM stuff anyway

JeffKenna

Lottie Ryan is probably the best DJ out there at the moment...

facehugger99

I believe the good ones 'Rock this party'.

Sabre0001

Best DJ!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9oRWKeKzC8

Lorelli!

There's 2manydjs op!

AndyBoBandy

geotrig wrote: »

Dave Clarke and the likes ,When twisting knobs and hitting buttons is actually doing stuff ....some of these trendier :rolleyes: djs's well I think it all about the show and may be prerecorded !

As much as Dave Clarke was a great DJ, technically he was pretty bad at DJing.

He could never beat match that well (I'm sure some would argue that that was his style, get the songs on asap to keep the set frantic, but a lot of the time it used to just sound woeful!) and he'd be disguising it with loads of chopping or scratching. Thing is though, when you are djing, and are in the zone, you can have beats matched within 2-3 beats, and keep it reasonably locked with fine adjustments.

JohnnyFlash

Dance music is all a bit of a whizz isn't it? Disposable and mostly forgettable music made on computers by people who don't have the skill to make real music using instruments.

Sir Osis of Liver.

Those whippersnappers aren't a patch on Larry Gogan.

AndyBoBandy

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Dance music is all a bit of a whizz isn't it? Disposable and mostly forgettable music made on computers by people who don't have the skill to make real music using instruments.

Leftfield's Leftism (and by extension Rhythm & Stealth) & Daft Punk's Homework, I would consider to be seminal works in the history of dance music, and still today sound as fresh and as amazing as they ever did.

Maybe nowadays in the age of David Guetta and the likes, it has simply become Pop Dance, and like all the generic pop rubbish of today, it will not stand the test of time.

Deebles McBeebles

Real men play strings.

Will I Am Not

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Dance music is all a bit of a whizz isn't it? Disposable and mostly forgettable music made on computers by people who don't have the skill to make real music using instruments.

Why don’t you fire up the old computer and make us a tune?

Boom_Bap

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

*A highlight of using original vinyl was Boom Bap's brothers engagement party , and when the question was officially popped at/for the party, I immediately followed it with Queen's 'Another One Bites the Dust' on 7 inch.

A party that I missed because I went to see Daft Punk that night in Marley Park

I heard you were great though

magic_murph

francois wrote: »

A lot of the sets are pre-programmed to sync with the light show-Don't get me started on Steve Aoki, a cake tossing tool. A lot of serious electronic music fans wouldn't bother with this EDM stuff anyway

That Steve Aoki is probably a prime example of what inspired this post.
He is on my hit list.
As in hit in the face a few times rather than end his existence

AndyBoBandy

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I heard you were great thought.

I was f***ing Awesome.

Boom_Bap

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

I was f***ing Awesome.

Actually, I think that someone texted me to tell me they got engaged and I went back to the party after DP.

geotrig

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

As much as Dave Clarke was a great DJ, technically he was pretty bad at DJing.

He could never beat match that well (I'm sure some would argue that that was his style, get the songs on asap to keep the set frantic, but a lot of the time it used to just sound woeful!) and he'd be disguising it with loads of chopping or scratching. Thing is though, when you are djing, and are in the zone, you can have beats matched within 2-3 beats, and keep it reasonably locked with fine adjustments.

oh i know and he is still as bad lol ... I just thought he was a good example of a nob tweeker that did stuff rather than just visual effect !Which to be fair even at times doesn't work for him ,he still puts together a decent set that most other cant even match.

Another example is Richie hawtin who on his day Bitd could do great sets ...these days he in my opinion at times seems to be a nob tweeker for visuals more than anything ...pity

Will I Am Not

The ‘real’ DJs that you mention are the dance music equivalent to Xfactor contestants topping the mainstream charts.
They’re making sh*t loads of money so fair play to them in that regard.

Oh and if you think “sure anyone with a computer can make that dance music sh*te”. Go ahead and make it.
Anyone can pick up a guitar and make noise come out of it...

MadYaker

Berties_Horse wrote: »

They scratch their arses, that art has been in decline since 1991.

Hey look at me I'm in my late 30s and I'm too old to party therefore the party is dead. Not true I'm afraid. The DJ scene in Ireland is pretty vibrant at the moment. Techno is still big but it's different to how it was in the 90s. There are still lots of great producers and DJs if you know where to go.

thecornflake

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

I was f***ing Awesome.

House or garage?

Autecher

The key to being a good DJ is knowing when to drop the bass

Boom_Bap

Here's a taste what my homie DJ Flip does

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agcvFI0S6Y8

GinAndBitter

thecornflake wrote: »

House or garage?

Balaeric pumping or commercial pumping???

Hector Savage

Check out this guy, think he is an incredible talent to mix films and tv like that

GinAndBitter

MadYaker wrote: »

Hey look at me I'm in my late 30s and I'm too old to party therefore the party is dead. Not true I'm afraid. The DJ scene in Ireland is pretty vibrant at the moment. Techno is still big but it's different to how it was in the 90s. There are still lots of great producers and DJs if you know where to go.

Where exactly is the scene you speak of? At least 10 dance clubs have been closed in Dublin over the last 15 years. What exactly is left bar one or two places. The scene is undeniably in serious decline and has been for a long time.

Dial Hard

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

*A highlight of using original vinyl was Boom Bap's brothers engagement party , and when the question was officially popped at/for the party, I immediately followed it with Queen's 'Another One Bites the Dust' on 7 inch.

Hang on, they only got engaged at their own engagement party???