Olivia Pope wrote: » Getting back to the topic, for ladies. Is it skirt and top, dress or pants and top. Are nice bootcut jeans and a nice blouse a no no?
Teacher0101 wrote: » What's wrongwith a trainee mechanic Bobtheman. You've probably got the issue if you're staring at young teachers arses all day. Issue was, you're not paid as a professional, so casual wear (not tracksuit yes I agree) / smart casual is more than acceptable.
Teacher0101 wrote: » I don't know what it's advertised as, because most people are glad to have an 11 hour split contract. And I see now they are going over to the UAE to try and get people to return? ****ing idiots, a cash cow course of 2 years for a univerity, even the HDip was. It was and is a joke.
Bobtheman wrote: » Really ? Though to be fair Playboy is quite mild with what's out there now. I remember when it was banned !
Teacher0101 wrote: » Well, net pay is what you actually receive.
rainbowtrout wrote: » I really despise threads on here when teachers are complaining about their pay and quote net pay rather than gross pay.
Teacher0101 wrote: » No, I said to student teachers to play the game and dress formally for the first few years. I've been teaching thirteen years. We are considered professional - but not paid as such. We don't have a uniform like nurses or Gardabut aren't exactly paid like lawyers or Doctors. Thirteen years, I've added an extra subject to my CV, I've an MA and HDip, and I get about 34K after tax. Not really a professionals wage.
evolving_doors wrote: » Noveight wrote: » Colleague of mine has started rocking up wearing tracksuit pants, a hoodie and a pair of runners. It’d be understandable if they were a PE teacher, but they’re not. Far too casual. Top that. When doing the dip there was a teacher who wore a Playboy hoodie and had a Playboy pencil case.
Noveight wrote: » Colleague of mine has started rocking up wearing tracksuit pants, a hoodie and a pair of runners. It’d be understandable if they were a PE teacher, but they’re not. Far too casual.
Bobtheman wrote: » Standards in dress have dropped in teaching as a whole. Hoodies and jeans now seem acceptable. Young ones in tight jeans etc. Pleasant to look at but one wonders. A lot of the male teachers look like trainee mechanics.
evolving_doors wrote: Ya wha?
spurious wrote: » Personally I wouldn't have an issue with jeans as long as they are clean and not ripped. I wouldn't wear them for teaching practice though. I can't believe some women need it pointed out to them what is and is not appropriate wear for teaching. No, they don't need to see your knocks popping out. I once even had a male colleague who favoured the 'bag of cats down the front of a tracksuit' style. Not a PE teacher, either. Lordy my breakfast nearly re-appeared sometimes.
Ashley Agreeable Abdominal wrote: I think shirt, jumper, chinos and casual shoes . In the warm weather polo shirt instead of shirt and jumper would be fine. Even if you are over dressed compared to the other teachers you are making a good impression on your supervisor, school principal, other teachers and students by making an effort.
Teacher0101 wrote: » I'm not doing my masters in Ed, I said I did a HDip years ago and a separate MA. I'd expect a Doctor to be wearing formal/formalish clothes - but I don't care as long as they are a good Dr. Same with a teacher. You can have a huge wardrobe but be absolutely crap at teaching. Dress professionally? Yeah, if you're getting paid professionally. Jeans can look smart on people, and plimsole trainers with a shirt, whats wrong with that? Most men in my place wear something like that. I realise this is a rant but here it goes. It is typical of new type of entrant that is coming into teaching. Very limited general knowledge and weak willed. They don't want to upset the apple cart and would do anything for a job. ]Points are much easier to get than 20 years ago , and lots of past students are coming back to our place on teaching practice who do not have the skills or personality to be a teacher. Cost of living has increased - the Gardaí threaten a strike, their wages go up. Nurses - well, you can't give out about nurses - strike for five days. Teachers - and it's the ones that are older - are spineless. But why should they? The Department has teachers at each scale on the ladder snookered in some way. If you are just in the door you'd want to have a fair set of balls to be a rabble-rouser. You need to take every crap bit of extra curricular that's thrown your way. CID has changed to two years - which is much better than the four it used to be. Unions are a joke. Protests at lunchtime? Go out for a week and there might be some respect from parents when they have to look after their kids at home. Media hates teachers anyway - so who cares if we make a strong stand. TUI/ASTI are as feeble and as low down the sewer as the Teaching Council. It's a crap profession and any teachers I know do not want their kids to follow them into the job.
Teacher0101 wrote: » I'm not doing my masters in Ed, I said I did a HDip years ago and a separate MA. I'd expect a Doctor to be wearing formal/formalish clothes - but I don't care as long as they are a good Dr. Same with a teacher. You can have a huge wardrobe but be absolutely crap at teaching. Dress professionally? Yeah, if you're getting paid professionally. Jeans can look smart on people, and plimsole trainers with a shirt, whats wrong with that? Most men in my place wear something like that. I realise this is a rant but here it goes. It is typical of new type of entrant that is coming into teaching. Very limited general knowledge and weak willed. They don't want to upset the apple cart and would do anything for a job. Points are much easier to get than 20 years ago, and lots of past students are coming back to our place on teaching practice who do not have the skills or personality to be a teacher. Cost of living has increased - the Gardaí threaten a strike, their wages go up. Nurses - well, you can't give out about nurses - strike for five days. Teachers - and it's the ones that are older - are spineless. But why should they? The Department has teachers at each scale on the ladder snookered in some way. If you are just in the door you'd want to have a fair set of balls to be a rabble-rouser. You need to take every crap bit of extra curricular that's thrown your way. CID has changed to two years - which is much better than the four it used to be. Unions are a joke. Protests at lunchtime? Go out for a week and there might be some respect from parents when they have to look after their kids at home. Media hates teachers anyway - so who cares if we make a strong stand. TUI/ASTI are as feeble and as low down the sewer as the Teaching Council. It's a crap profession and any teachers I know do not want their kids to follow them into the job.
Teacher0101 wrote: » No, I said to student teachers to play the game and dress formally for the first few years. I've been teaching thirteen years. We are considered professional - but not paid as such. We don't have a uniform like nurses or Gardaí, but aren't exactly paid like lawyers or Doctors. Thirteen years, I've added an extra subject to my CV, I've an MA and HDip, and I get about 34K after tax. Not really a professionals wage.
Teacher0101 wrote: » Yes, but we are not paid as one.
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