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Ireland rejoining the British Commonwealth

Sheeps

The Blue Shirt's had their party conference today and invited their allies from Northern Ireland down to it, where DUP member Jeffrey Donaldson to suggest Ireland join the British Commonwealth.

Do you think Ireland should become a Commonwealth country?

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Avatar MIA

Sheeps wrote: »

The Blue Shirt's had their party conference today and invited their allies from Northern Ireland down to it, where DUP member Jeffrey Donaldson to suggest Ireland join the British Commonwealth.

Do you think Ireland should become a Commonwealth country?

What's the British Commonwealth?

Mike Oxlong

Oh just for the hell of it, I'll say Yes!

Abel Ruiz

Not a chance.
They are leaving. Bye bye pals

RustyNut

Avatar MIA wrote: »

What's the British Commonwealth?

Its a sorta club for britain's various victims.

yerwanthere123

Your Face

No and Norn Iron shouldn't join the Republic either.

Avatar MIA

RustyNut wrote: »

Its a sorta club for britain's various victims.

Not all of them were even former colonies.

Besides, we should be very welcome since we did a lot of the soldiering.

Stephen15

Fine Gael are an openly anti Irish party nothing new there

SEPT 23 1989

Nobody over 40 finds this funny

We remember

pleas advice

let's see how brexit plays out before we go making any rash decisions....

Franz Von Peppercorn

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Not all of them were even former colonies.

Besides, we should be very welcome since we did a lot of the soldiering.

Lots of the colonies did a lot of the grunt work soldiering. We’d be welcome but we don’t want to join.

The Rape of Lucretia

If Ireland can overcome its inferiority complex and chip on its shoulder re the British, then, rejoining the Commonwealth is a undoubtedly a good step. Its like an old boys club. Ireland would be reforging links with fellow countries from the age when we were all in the Empire. It doesnt add up to that much, but every little helps. Its a heads Ireland wins, tails it doesnt lose anything. And is a nice early link up to Brejoining the UK if we should ever need that option as well.

McMurphy

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

If Ireland can overcome its inferiority complex and chip on its shoulder re the British, then, rejoining the Commonwealth is a undoubtedly a good step. Its like an old boys club. Ireland would be reforging links with fellow countries from the age when we were all in the Empire. It doesnt add up to that much, but every little helps. Its a heads Ireland wins, tails it doesnt lose anything. And is a nice early link up to Brejoining the UK if we should ever need that option as well.

It's late, and admittedly I was out with friends earlier for a meal where a few (no more than 3) drinks have been consumed.

However I've a clear head when I say that I don't believe that I've ever seen you enter a thread on this site where you don't start posting stuff that is always the minority view on things , and always a little bit more than controversial.

T.R.O.L

You're a WUM, and a crap one at that.

Stephen15

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

If Ireland can overcome its inferiority complex and chip on its shoulder re the British, then, rejoining the Commonwealth is a undoubtedly a good step. Its like an old boys club. Ireland would be reforging links with fellow countries from the age when we were all in the Empire. It doesnt add up to that much, but every little helps. Its a heads Ireland wins, tails it doesnt lose anything. And is a nice early link up to Brejoining the UK if we should ever need that option as well.

Not against British influence in Ireland in particular as I am against any sort of forgein influence. I fail to see any sort to joining the commonwealth. We all talk about the effects of Brexit but less face it Brexit is turning out to be a complete and utter farce as most people in Ireland expected that is unlikely to happen.

Some say with Brexit looming we need to strengthening ties with the UK to prevent a border on the island and the effects on Irish trade with Britain. In the unlikely event of Brexit actually happening it will be the EU who impose a border and put up barriers to trade not Britain so absolutely no need to try to strengthen ties with Britain it's a waste of time and does not act in the national interest as we have enough forgein influence already.

Auguste Comte

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

If Ireland can overcome its inferiority complex and chip on its shoulder re the British, then, rejoining the Commonwealth is a undoubtedly a good step. Its like an old boys club. Ireland would be reforging links with fellow countries from the age when we were all in the Empire. It doesnt add up to that much, but every little helps. Its a heads Ireland wins, tails it doesnt lose anything. And is a nice early link up to Brejoining the UK if we should ever need that option as well.

And we could put a little union jack in the corner of our flag too, wouldn't that be nice.

Plumbthedepths

I always get the impression that most FG'ers are heartbroken they are not British born. Just me I guess.

The high horse brigade

We've had a nice old time being away from the commonwealth. We've had no genocides or famines

questionmark?

Stephen15 wrote: »

Fine Gael are an openly anti Irish party nothing new there

Ah go on I'll bite for ****es and giggles. Why?

Plumbthedepths

questionmark? wrote:

Ah go on I'll bite for ****es and giggles. Why?

Because they're clearly a bunch of w**kers.

BuboBubo

No fcukin way.

The British plundered every single country they invaded, enslaved the natives and carried out unspeakable atrocities. And the blueshirts/westbrits suggesting we go cap in hand back to them asking to join the commonwealth is akin to Stockholm Syndrome.

The poll results at the top of this thread suggests many agree with me here.

questionmark?

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Because they're clearly a bunch of w**kers.

Well that settles it then!

road_high

Sheeps wrote: »

The Blue Shirt's had their party conference today and invited their allies from Northern Ireland down to it, where DUP member Jeffrey Donaldson to suggest Ireland join the British Commonwealth.

Do you think Ireland should become a Commonwealth country?

I don’t think they're “allies” they’ve been at loggerheads with the Taoiseach pretty much since he cane into office. FG are a bizarre mix of nationalism, a traditional softness towards the UK, the party of southern prodestants, free market economics, social liberalism also mixed with conservatism. DUP are much more resulote on their stances

FrancieBrady

The wet dreams of Fine Gael need to dry up. This Donaldson guy and his party cannot bring themselves to recognise our celebration/commemoration of independence.

road_high

If rejoining the Commonwealth was a sop to northern unionists as we head towards a United ireland then its of no real consequence to me- if there ever is a United ireland there’ll have to be that space for people of British allegiance. I don’t think it’s something people in the south can quite grasp and not sure we’re ready to share that space at all as were so used to seeing things simply in Irish terms

road_high

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The wet dreams of Fine Gael need to dry up. This Donaldson guy and his party cannot bring themselves to recognise our celebration/commemoration of independence.

I doubt it’s their wet dreams they’re just trying to mend a few bridges after this whole divisive Brexit episode. Nothing wrong with that, northern unionists are not going to disappear so there’s little point in ignoring them.
Varadkar is the most nationalistic Taoiseach I’ve experienced, definitely more hardline with the UK than any I can remember.

FrancieBrady

road_high wrote: »

If rejoining the Commonwealth was a sob to northern unionists as we head towards a United ireland then its of no real consequence to me- if there ever is a United ireland there’ll have to be that space for people of British allegiance. I don’t think it’s something people in the south can quite grasp and not sure we’re ready to share that space at all as were so used to seeing things simply in Irish terms

There is a negotiated future and then there is pointless appeasement. What integrity would we have if we bend too far? I understand the flag and anthem stuff (who cares if they change) but joining an organisation with a monarch as the head is a step too far. Ireland and a new united Ireland will be a republic because that is what the majority will want. Just as the DUP claim they are Brexitting because the majority want to.

prinzeugen

BuboBubo wrote: »

No fcukin way.

The British plundered every single country they invaded, enslaved the natives and carried out unspeakable atrocities. And the blueshirts/westbrits suggesting we go cap in hand back to them is akin to Stockholm Syndrome.

The poll results at the top of this thread suggests many agree with me here.

Yet I bet you have no problem with the French, who did more murdering and plundering than the British.

At least Britain gave its territories their own governments. France did not. Thats why you have the back of a €20 or €50 note cluttered with French acquisitions worldwide.

Frances longest land border is with... Brazil. Google it.

Anyone that slags the British over their past but not the French, Dutch, Spanish Japanese etc are clueless hypocrites.

road_high

FrancieBrady wrote: »

There is a negotiated future and then there is pointless appeasement. What integrity would we have if we bend too far? I understand the flag and anthem stuff (who cares if they change) but joining an organisation with a monarch as the head is a step too far. Ireland and a new united Ireland will be a republic because that is what the majority will want. Just as the DUP claim they are Brexitting because the majority want to.

The commonwealth is purely a symbolic talk shop. If we rejoined it would make zero difference to any of our lives. If there was to be a United ireland in the future then part of the agreement would have to include commonwealth membership I’d think

road_high

prinzeugen wrote: »

Yet I bet you have no problem with the French, who did more murdering and plundering than the British.

At least Britain gave its territories their own governments. France did not. Thats why you have the back of a €20 or €50 note cluttered with French acquisitions worldwide.

Frances longest land border is with... Brazil. Google it.

Anyone that slags the British over their past but not the French, Dutch, Spanish Japanese etc are clueless hypocrites.

The French were pretty brutal in places like Vietnam from what I’ve read.

Yamanoto

For those who are serious about realising a united Ireland, there would have to be moves to make unionists feel comfortable with the prospect of having their security blanket pulled from beneath them.

The Commonwealth seems both a political and economic anachronism & I'd be doubtful as to what if any tangible benefits it delivers. But in a way, it's the optics that matter and if rejoining was a condition of agreeing a new Ireland, I don't think it'd be the stumbling block some might make it out to be.