ganmo wrote: » manganese deficiency strange since you're feeding licks, it might be a case of the extra minerals supplied locking up the manganese would you be on high iron ground?
kk.man wrote: » Thanks. It would be. I cut out the lifeline a few weeks back as I thought they were a bit of a gimmick.
wrangler wrote: » What percentage of your ewes had doubles that way, we always would have a few here,
wrangler wrote: » We'd 3 abortions this year, first two were at weekends so didn't get to lab, last one did, result came back positive for Enzo and Toxo. They're all 2017 born ewes, so they were all vaccinated the same day with the same vaccine so the vets getting on to MSD. That was 3 abortions from 25 ewes that were vaccinated in 2017 i'd be interested to know did anyone have a similar experience
kk.man wrote: » Of the 17 that lambed 2 of them. Any immediate solutions to right the wrong?
ganmo wrote: » pure manganese supplements are hard to find when did you dose with copper? it binds Mn too immediate solution, get some kind of mineral, dose lick or powder thats high in Mn But if they're close to lambing it'll be too late to fix the damage Just watch out its not magnesium its manganese you need
kk.man wrote: » I didn't vaccinate for either of the above but what worries me is that I saw a cat in the haybarn a few weeks back. We haven't had cats in years. The big lambs are normal but the small ones are just about surviving.
wrangler wrote: » The ones that aborted had one normal size and one ''blob'' just that you'd make out it was a lamb
kk.man wrote: » They got copper in January and multivitamin a few weeks before they were put to the ram.
kk.man wrote: » Yes that happened this morning. The other one was a few days ago and the little lad survived(obviously bigger than the blob)
wrangler wrote: » Would you get many in previous years
wrangler wrote: » Are the two dead this morning, mine were coming all dead
kk.man wrote: » No, one fine big lamb and a blob.
wrangler wrote: » There's something going on there alright, is that included in the two or the third one to have a big and small,
kk.man wrote: » Ewe 1...2 fairly small lambs, 1 surrived. Ewe 2 ... 1 big lamb and 1 small lamb both survive but a noticeable difference in size. Ewe 3.. 1 v big lamb and 1 blob. Ewe 1 was the very 1st to lamb at 140 days so I didn't mind much there. There have been normal births between ewe 1 and ewe 3.
kk.man wrote: » Question; I have a few doubles born where I have one big lamb and one small lamb? They are on the best of hay ad lib, top quality ration and had restricted access to life line buckets. The ewes would have been dosed with cobalt and copper etc at various stages.
Buford T. Justice V wrote: » We would have been told the difference in size was due to the placement of the embryos in the womb. If both get roughly equal spots on each side, they should be more or less the same size because their placentas would have equal areas to extend over to get nutrients. If one in closer to the opposite side, their placenta can take some of the others available area and will be bigger than the lamb with less available area. It's very noticible in triplets, one big and two smaller and equal lambs would be sharing one side between them while the bigger would have most of one side to themselves.
wrangler wrote: » MSD phoned us this morning to say they'd look after us, so fair dues
ganmo wrote: » i wonder how many other ppl got the same batch
MD1983 wrote: » I am sending off a few bought in store lambs, bought last September. a few have lost tags, i have a few slaughter tags left over from last year, can i still use the slaughter tags for them this year since the new tagging regulations? TIA
Green farmer wrote: » What’s the best thing for newborn lambs with sore eyes closed shut ? I’ve opened the eyes up but their abit sticky. Don’t know if the crows were at them
eire23 wrote: » Are their eyelids turned in? Could be entropian, normally just pulling the eyelids down and they should sorta pop into place. The odd one might need it done a second time. It's a bloody nuisance
Green farmer wrote: » Think so, just wouldn’t open his eyes. I held it open for 30seconds and same again a hour later. Seems to have passed now. Must have opened themselves after I manipulated them.
Dinzee Conlee wrote: » If it is that eyelid thing - isn’t that an inheritable thing from the ram?
