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Guinness is a good drop.

Pauliedragon

I'm a Heineken drinker but being the day that's in it I went on the black stuff yesterday and it was surprisingly nice. Such an easy pint to drink. I might change my habits.

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OldMrBrennan83

Single pour leaves you with a 2 inch head or a messy glass.

Knex*

Ipso wrote: »

Would there be something wrong with single pour Guinness, does the magic not work?

The double pour is a marketing ploy from Guinness. Makes absolutely zero difference to the pint, regardless of what people will claim.

Church on Tuesday

Knex. wrote: »

The double pour is a marketing ploy from Guinness. Makes absolutely zero difference to the pint, regardless of what people will claim.

Believe me, it makes all the difference.

dan1895

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

That West Indies porter was a lovely drop

As is the Dublin Porter, Guinness Foreign Extra and stuff you can get in Africa. All nice flavoursome stouts.

irish_goat

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Believe me, it makes all the difference.

[citation needed]

[Deleted User]

Knex. wrote: »

The double pour is a marketing ploy from Guinness. Makes absolutely zero difference to the pint, regardless of what people will claim.

The only people who say that are people who don't drink Guinness often enough to have encountered a muck pint. If they do, they benefit from the double pour while remaining totally ignorant of the purpose anyway.

The double pour helps with delivering a consistent pint to the person who wants their Guinness to be the same, no matter where they drink it. Same head size, same flavour/taste as regards not going stale quicker in one place than the other etc.

It's the same reason for insisting all the kit used to deliver it from the keg and ideally right down to the supply of tulip or nonic pint glasses. It's all about consistency. I've had savage pints in Skerries and Singapore and some pure crap in between when the locals think it's just 'beer'. It's not just beer. Uncivilised apes.

And if you think it doesn't matter, just try drinking guinness that's not chilled properly and then slopped into a tankard in a single pour somewhere in the south of Europe for example. If you still can't tell the difference, you might as well drink cold bovril instead of a pint of stout.

It's not some magical potion. It's a pint, but it should be a good pint, always. It matters, and if it doesn't matter to you, you're not the fella anyone's concerned about in the first place. Consistently good pints. That's the most important thing where Guinness is concerned.

Lovely, lovely Guinness.

ben.schlomo

Benjamin Vast Apostrophe wrote: »

dan1895 wrote: »

But Guinness is one of the worst stouts out there. Murphy's, Beamish, O'Hara's, all the Porterhouse stouts and even Super Bock Stout are all superior.

Guinesss is by far and away the nicest stout, porterhouse plain is a nice enough stout also but not as nice as Guinness. Beamish is ok, you could drink one or two but you get tired of it then and Murphys is undrinkable muck.

You keep telling yourself that.

https://www.ratebeer.com/beerstyles/stout/6/

[Deleted User]

ben.schlomo wrote: »

You keep telling yourself that.

https://www.ratebeer.com/beerstyles/stout/6/

Yeah, well done. You find some random internet site containing a ranking for ALL stouts GLOBALLY and completely miss the point that Nox is talking (clearly, obviously, you'd want to be blind to miss it) about Irish stout. You know, the stuff most Irish people think about when someone says a 'pint of stout'.

Just looking at that list makes me think that the people who 'rate' stouts on that site are probably **** anyway. Your average pint drinker isn't going to even consider the pints of wankerish-hipster-brew that are listed.

Ipso

JayZeus wrote: »

The only people who say that are people who don't drink Guinness often enough to have encountered a muck pint. If they do, they benefit from the double pour while remaining totally ignorant of the purpose anyway.

The double pour helps with delivering a consistent pint to the person who wants their Guinness to be the same, no matter where they drink it. Same head size, same flavour/taste as regards not going stale quicker in one place than the other etc.

It's the same reason for insisting all the kit used to deliver it from the keg and ideally right down to the supply of tulip or nonic pint glasses. It's all about consistency. I've had savage pints in Skerries and Singapore and some pure crap in between when the locals think it's just 'beer'. It's not just beer. Uncivilised apes.

And if you think it doesn't matter, just try drinking guinness that's not chilled properly and then slopped into a tankard in a single pour somewhere in the south of Europe for example. If you still can't tell the difference, you might as well drink cold bovril instead of a pint of stout.

It's not some magical potion. It's a pint, but it should be a good pint, always. It matters, and if it doesn't matter to you, you're not the fella anyone's concerned about in the first place. Consistently good pints. That's the most important thing where Guinness is concerned.

Lovely, lovely Guinness.

What makes the two pour pintdifferent, apart from the nice notrogen effect and the expectation that you have to wait implies something superior.

[Deleted User]

Ipso wrote: »

What makes the two pour pintdifferent, apart from the nice notrogen effect and the expectation that you have to wait implies something superior.

Superior to what? Something that's poured in a single movement?

If you honestly think that people who typically drink Guinness are affected by such notions, I don't know what anyone here could say to change your mind.

Guinness is like bread and butter. Nobody thinks it's like a Vol-au-vent or a Croissant. It's about as straightforward as it gets. 'A pint' means, for the most part, a Guinness. Or a Murphys or a Beamish or whatnot.

Traditional Irish stout has sweet **** all pretension about it. It's only when fellas who think chilli coffee stout or caramel fandango stout are comparable that any of that bolloxology comes up as regards a pint of Guinness.

As Forest's mother used to tell him, you can't fix stupid.

JohnnyFlash

I think it’s very easy to enjoy Guinness at times, and at times some fancy stout crafted in a former dog kennel by a heavily bearded guy called Conall using recycled rain water and 19 types of hops.

Depends on the mood. That O’Hara’s Leann Follin is perhaps the nicest stout I’ve ever tasted, but I’m not going to sink 12 of them after a day in Croke Park.

dan1895

JayZeus wrote: »

Guinness is like bread and butter. Nobody thinks it's like a Vol-au-vent or a Croissant. It's about as straightforward as it gets.

So you admit it's as bland as f*ck?

Force Carrier

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

It’s akin to claiming to taste the difference between a shaken or stirred martini.

In either case it should taste like martini.

Franz Von Peppercorn

dan1895 wrote: »

So you admit it's as bland as f*ck?

Bland is grand.

Ipso

dan1895 wrote: »

So you admit it's as bland as f*ck?

Bit it is easy drinking and not as heavy as many think, the nitrogen dulls the flavout in the draught version but the old style bottles are nicer.

EmmetSpiceland

Force Carrier wrote: »

In either case it should taste like martini.

Which it does but some connoisseurs out there believe that something happens to the drink, like pounding a steak but this is of course nonsense.

Same with the two pint pour. Any skilled barman can pull a perfect pint in one go. The bad rap comes from unskilled barmen, mainly in the UK, pulling the pint like it’s some cheap cider.

rob316

Heineken is absolute piss OP.

Stout is a proper drink, I'm a Beamish man but Guinness is a fine pint of plain.

You can sing to a good pint of plain, write a poem about it, stare lovingly at it.

I will agree though it can kill me when it exits. But lager makes me bloated and gassy and cider does evil things to me.

rob316

The one major disadvantage to drinking stout though is the awful inconsistency from pub to pub. It could be mother's milk or dishwater.

[Deleted User]

dan1895 wrote: »

So you admit it's as bland as f*ck?

Admit? Do you think you’re Perry Mason or something?

It’s as plain as vanilla ice cream, a home baked brown soda bread, a fresh pot of tea with an extra bag, new boiled potatoes with salt and butter or a toasted cheese sandwich.

I like it. Couldn’t give two sticky black sheites what you think of it, one way or the other.

Titzon Toast

I've never had a pint of Guinness if I'm honest. I'm 40 later this year, I'll try to get one in before then.

Technocentral

One of a dozen or so stouts available in Ireland and not the best, that would be Porterhouse Wrasslers imo.

Sam Quentin

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Love the stuff, and would put away 8-10 barrels of it a year. Could never understand this idea that it’s heavy and hard to drink - it’s far easier sink a dozen pints of Guinness than it is lager. The main side effect the next day are the frankly horrific farts - the type that hang around and almost burn the hair in your nostrils.

Surely that's a good enough reason to cut down on the barrells per year!?

JohnnyFlash

Technocentral wrote: »

One of a dozen or so stouts available in Ireland and not the best, that would be Porterhouse Wrasslers imo.

Shame about the pubs though. More atmosphere in an English funeral home. It’s a problem with a load of those craft beer pubs. A few auld board games with pieces missing doesn’t change the fact that they are shîte.

dan1895

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Shame about the pubs though. More atmosphere in an English funeral home. It’s a problem with a load of those craft beer pubs. A few auld board games with pieces missing doesn’t change the fact that they are shîte.

Why do different things scare you? You sound so insecure. Poor thing.

OldMrBrennan83

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Shame about the pubs though. More atmosphere in an English funeral home. It’s a problem with a load of those craft beer pubs. A few auld board games with pieces missing doesn’t change the fact that they are shîte.

As nice as a lot of the small brewery beers are, the whole "scene" and the people who are mad into it are nauseating. There's no smugger bunch out there.

[Deleted User]

dan1895 wrote: »

Why do different things scare you? You sound so insecure. Poor thing.

We can’t all be as special as yourself now Dan. Blazing a trail to the latest micro-brewery-flogging-bile-in-a-barrel-with-a-catchy-name to fellas who are past the long oiled beard and phase, but still actively trying to fill a void in their ****ty lives with some false sense of adventure.

But go on, have at it. Nobody on the internet really cares what pish in a glass you consume, or how adventurous and modern it makes you feel.

Mine’s a pint of plain and it’s your round.

JohnnyFlash

dan1895 wrote: »

Why do different things scare you? You sound so insecure. Poor thing.

What are you on about, pal? I’m a big fan of trying new beers. I’d rather do that in a good pub though, than one of those craft beer wankpits like those Galway Bay Brewery lads try to festoon on people. Like a Wetherspoons with notions.

Need a pub with a good selection of macro and preferably local beers, no TV unless there’s a match on, bit of music, load of birds with big knockers hanging around looking for a chat. Proper night in the pub.

Truckermal

My own local has savage porter and I mean it's pure cream and drinking the lot in 3 whips is no bother plus even after a Gallon you are perfect the next morning.

I went to a different pub one night and knowing the porter was muck I had a few pints of Budweiser and was absolutely fcuked the next day.

ben.schlomo

JayZeus wrote: »

ben.schlomo wrote: »

You keep telling yourself that.

https://www.ratebeer.com/beerstyles/stout/6/

Yeah, well done. You find some random internet site containing a ranking for ALL stouts GLOBALLY and completely miss the point that Nox is talking (clearly, obviously, you'd want to be blind to miss it) about Irish stout. You know, the stuff most Irish people think about when someone says a 'pint of stout'.

Just looking at that list makes me think that the people who 'rate' stouts on that site are probably **** anyway. Your average pint drinker isn't going to even consider the pints of wankerish-hipster-brew that are listed.

A random site? You mean the most popular site used worldwide for rating beer. Interesting take on it. Best you to stick to listening to Nox. And yes they're all **** too, obviously.

[Deleted User]

ben.schlomo wrote: »

A random site? You mean the most popular site used worldwide for rating beer. Interesting take on it. Best you to stick to listening to Nox. And yes they're all **** too, obviously.

I prefer to conduct statistical analysis based on how many pints of Guinness I see fellas consuming happily in their local, totally devoid of any pure bullsh** waffle about the mellow lingering aftertaste and smooth as silk texture of the head on a pint of My Stinky Middle Finger Stout from some plaid shirted, short trouser wearing dickhead who thinks their ability to rate pints with fellow internet bores lends them any special authority on the subject of what is or is not a decent pint.

Ball scratching eejits. They’re twice as bad as the muppets who go down to their local off license and pay 10-20 times the price they’d pay in Carrefour, just because they want the ‘experience’ so they can talk to their wine-o friends about it.

It’s a decent pint of stout. Don’t make out it’s trying to be anything else, or failing to be what it is. It’s a Guinness. Take it or leave it. Just don’t act like you know any more than the fellas who quietly sup on a few and know how good they have it.