P_1 wrote: » Trouble is for lack of a better description, theres a negative bias against a certain cohort of taxi drivers. For example I'd rather walk than take a taxi from the rank at the likes of oconnoll street. Furthermore we're almost back in the bad old days in terms of supply on a Friday or Saturday evening. Now the choices to resolve that are either increased public transport at night or increasing the supply of drivers. I've used uber in the UK, its handy, you can see where your taxi is and you don't need to mess about with cash. Try asking your average Dublin taxi driver if they take card and they'd look at you as if you have 2 heads
LuckyLloyd wrote: » We have Uber and MyTaxi, so all of the tech benefits are available to Irish people using taxis. The only aspect we don’t have is the ridesharing / gig economy aspect. And - no matter what people want - we will never have the free for all in those respects that exist elsewhere due to robust employee protections.
P_1 wrote: » I agree with you on that. However we need to get drivers actually using the tech benefits. Imo having the ability to accept a card should be part of the requirements to have a taxi licence. Arguably so should the GPS tracking element
LuckyLloyd wrote: » The vast majority of taxis in urban areas use mytaxi / Uber which makes payment by cards possible, and GPS tracking available by default. The tech benefits are here.
P_1 wrote: » But they don't use them. Frequently taxi drivers put the aps on mute at busy times and more often than not when one feels gracious enough to stop when you flag one down you're greeted with a "cash only pal"
LuckyLloyd wrote: » I haven’t had those experiences, and I was an early user of Hailo. I never use cash in Dublin for taxis anymore, and use them constantly.
GerardKeating wrote: » Not paid cash for a taxi in a few years, many/most take cards now.
Rotweiler wrote: » Can we not be a UBER driver without a taxi licence in Dublin now?
fullstop wrote: » Not true. I often try to get a taxi to pay by card when landing at Dublin airport and often have to wait until 15 or 20 have passed through before they can find one that takes cards. And MyTaxi is not the same thing, if that’s what you were referring to. It’s also a **** app.
markodaly wrote: » Uber style scheme would put users at risk of MURDER!!
makeorbrake wrote: » What a very progressive line for them to take! In recent weeks, I've moved from using Uber to INdriver. INdriver puts a different twist on car pooling - with customers having the ability to offer an amount for a fare. The drivers come back in real time and either match that price or counter-offer. It's a very interesting approach and one that's going to disrupt the disrupter. Whilst I love the innovation that Uber has brought, their market dominance is letting them get away with murder (the only murder that's involved here!). Here, they're taking up to 30% from the driver. I don't think its reasonable for this to go above 20%. With INdriver, I'm getting better fares - whilst the driver is getting a better deal also. Furthermore, I get to see what car the driver has and can select a car on that basis.
Spook_ie wrote: » Doesn't seem to be downloadable in Ireland, probably because of Ireland's metered fare policy, you pay only up to the maximum metered fare, if you bid and offer a lower than metered fare you must still run the meter and charge the agreed fare.
n97 mini wrote: » I used Uber extensively in the US in 2016 but in the intervening years Lyft had arrived and I found that in some cities by 2018 Lyft cars outnumbered Uber 4 to 1. So it doesn't really have a monopoly.
n97 mini wrote: » I used Uber extensively in the US in 2016 but in the intervening years Lyft had arrived and I found that in some cities by 2018 Lyft cars outnumbered Uber 4 to 1. So it doesn't really have a monopoly. I've used it extensively in NI and Britain too. As mentioned above it can be a lot easier to get an Uber than a taxi, e.g. outside Manchester Piccadilly there can be long queues for taxis. Obviously there is no queue for Uber. Cheaper too. Are Hackney licences still a thing? They seem to be available from doing a quick google, but I haven't seen one in years. I'd have thought they'd be compatible with UberX.
Losty Dublin wrote: » There ares still Hackney's, yes. Rare in the cities and older metered areas as taxi plates were generally available and better for work and what passengers were used to seeing, more common in taxi-less towns and in rural areas. Hackneys can use ÜberX in Ireland but they and their drivers still need to be licensed as per Irish Laws and adhere to agreed fares when booked or hired.
n97 mini wrote: » So the fares could be based on what UberX estimates. That's curious. Why are the likes of Clare Co Council considering introducing and "Uber like" system when it sounds like Uber+hackneys could fill that gap.https://drcd.gov.ie/rural-uber-type-car-pooling-app-shows-that-clare-is-thinking-ahead-minister-ring/ I've several rural based friends who had hackneys years ago, but now there are none. Indeed where I live in Leixlip, about 15 years ago there were three cab companies, predominantly served by hackneys. Now there's only one firm and the drivers are all taxis.
n97 mini wrote: » The rural licences, even though cheaper, have been a failure. Only 14 in the whole country as of mid 2016 according to the IT. Probably even less now as 18 licences were originally issued. I wonder what's stopping Uber registering as a dispatch operator. The Clare Uber thing is newer. Check the link in my post above.
In reality, Uber’s platform does not include any technological breakthroughs, and Uber has done nothing to “disrupt” the economics of providing urban car services. What Uber has disrupted is the idea that competitive consumer and capital markets will maximize overall economic welfare by rewarding companies with superior efficiency. Its multibillion dollar subsidies completely distorted marketplace price and service signals, leading to a massive misallocation of resources. Uber’s most important innovation has been to produce staggering levels of private wealth without creating any sustainable benefits for consumers, workers, the cities they serve, or anyone else.
magicbastarder wrote: » Uber’s Path of Destructionhttps://americanaffairsjournal.org/2019/05/ubers-path-of-destruction/
makeorbrake wrote: » On the gig economy, I've seen many instances where people are empowered to go out and work for a few hours here or there as suits their needs....(not in ireland of course). I like the idea that someone can decide to simply switch on the app and work if they need to supplement income, etc. It should also be noted that this makes for a far more progressive economy.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Except for the bit about how this completely undermines the industry.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » and the work that has gone on over the past decade or so to improve standards by ensuring that drivers are trained and meet required standards.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » make sure taxi services are usable by everybody, including wheelchair users, people with guide dogs and assistance dogs and more.
