suicide_circus wrote: » ^^^ seem to more concerned with the online reaction to these gang attacks than the actual attacks
1641 wrote: » They are not mutually exclusive. Hopefully they are concerned about both.
Pkiernan wrote: » Since the online version requires barely any effort from our boys in blue, it's safe to say which one they'll be concentrating on.
1641 wrote: » I don't think its safe to say at all - at least what you probably mean by that. Do you not have any concern about the unscrupulous using these issues to stir up racial hatred?
Ulysses Gaze wrote: » I don't blame the asylum seekers here at all. I blame the same old bunch of Middle Class "Socialists" that have invited asylum seekers into the country only to throw them into ghettos without proper supports and throw a few shiny pennies at them. Then these self same "Socialists" give themselves a great big clap on the back for doing something that makes them "feel good". Proper integration would require a proper redistribution of asylum seekers into middle class suburbs to live beside the middle classes, go to school with the middle class kids and socialise with them. That would actually water the seeds of ambition amongst asylum seekers, let them feel less resentment towards the society that has invited them into their country and foster integration. If anything, Asylum Seekers have been sold a pup by Middle Class "Socialists" so that the latter can pontificate to others about how virtuous they are.
Zorya wrote: » There is hatred everywhere, from all sides........... There are no goodies when it comes to the ideologically possessed of any ilk.
pablo128 wrote: » There's no one on here saying they hate blacks. But they are condemning what a black gang or gangs are doing, and discussing it on this thread. I don't see anyone stirring up hatred for black people.
1641 wrote: » The Gardai seem quite aware that issues such as this are being used as a wedge by extremists to stir up racial hatred - and we can't pretend not to know where that leads for some individuals, whether slightly unhinged or not. "Gardaí responsible for monitoring several websites and online personalities with a history of spreading racism and inciting hatred among Irish web users have noted a recent increase in activity.Many of the websites are based in the US making combating them difficult due to strong freedom of speech protections in that country, said Insp David McInerney of the Garda Racial, Intercultural and Diversity Office (Grido). Others frequently change their names and IP addresses, making monitoring much more difficult. “There are certain groups out there who like to stir up racial hatred and we have to be watching that all the time,” he said. “These are certain individuals who come up time and time again. We know people who are at this all the time. They move on, they change the name of the site and then they start again. “They’re inciting hatred, just trying to get people’s back up all the time,” Insp McInerney said, following a spate of online racial abuse directed at the Black-Irish community in response to reports of anti-social behaviour by groups of black youths in west Dublin and Meath.https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda-monitoring-websites-and-online-activists-for-hate-speech-1.3827772
1641 wrote: » Discussing the issue is perfectly legit in itself. I haven't followed most of the 155 pages so far, but just looking back over the past few pages alone there are several racist comments re black people per se. And the broader point being that there are ideologically motivated extremists using issues such as this to stir up racial hatred generally - though they have no interest in the issue itself, as in resolving it. They are delighted by it.
recedite wrote: » The whole article seems like a rant by a particular Garda against the concept of Freedom of Speech. The USA is not a rogue state.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » I think that gang who beat up the young lad from Ashbourne, stole his birthday money and took his phone then put the vid of their bravery online are doing quite alright stirring up racial hatred to be honest.
1641 wrote: » I haven't followed most of the 155 pages so far, but just looking back over the past few pages alone there are several racist comments re black people per se.
1641 wrote: » Who doesn't hate crime and thuggery? Why has it morphed into a generalised "black" thing, ie, racial hatred?
not yet wrote: » It hasn't 'morphed' into anything, The facts are the following.. Young black youths are causing havoc in multiple areas, this issue is getting worse, as seen in Ashbourne. MSM are not reporting these issues for whatever reason. I live in one of these areas, and can tell you as fact, people are extremely worried where this will lead in years to come. People are entitled to discuss these issues on an open, public forum.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » It hasn't. These gangs happen to be black. By in large most posts have been about asylum seekers and have not even mentioned skin color. You're the one bringing it up.
MrFresh wrote: » Why do you think these gangs of black youths are more worthy of discussion than the gangs of youths of any other colour? Maybe it's because they travel in large numbers to intimidate locals, something I have never seen in my lifetime.. Maybe it's because people feel their parents were given a great opportunity in this Country and this is how it's repaid.. Maybe people are genuinely worried about where this could lead, Black gangs are synonymous with knife crime in London.. Or maybe it's because I'm a Londoner, who knows !!
not yet wrote: » Maybe it's because they travel in large numbers to intimidate locals, something I have never seen in my lifetime..
MrFresh wrote: » You've never seen large gangs of white youths in your lifetime?
Zorya wrote: » There is hatred everywhere, from all sides. Best ignored, while one endeavours to think for oneself. For example this morning on Twitter I saw a post by someone from the ''left'' who responded to a woman supporting female spaces against male appropriation, eg sports, toilets, hostels etc, by saying to them that they wished they could take a sh!te down their throat. Rape threats, death threats, doxxing of people, these are all fairly common from the righteous side of the field. Kathy Griffin called for the Covington teens to be doxxed. And they were. Right-on lefty celebs have called for Trump to be assassinated. There are no goodies when it comes to the ideologically possessed of any ilk.
daveville30 wrote: » Plenty of polish and Lithuanian teenagers in the country that where born here are not going around causing trouble. Whats going on in balbriggan and the likes is them wanting to be gangsters. Thug life and all that.