Dont be at yourself wrote: » Amazed that they squeezed a third row of seats in there. I wonder will they offer a 6-seater option like the Model X? That's the ideal configuration, I think.
unkel wrote: » How many kids do you have and how big are they? We're a family of 5 but it would be handy for us to occasionally bring the mother-in-law and / or other other kids with us, mainly for short-ish distances. The 2 extra seats would be useful for that. They look suitable even for adults, as long as they are well below 6 feet (1.8m).The seats look a lot more useful than the ones in the 7 seat option in Model S I'd say the interior will be similar in size, perhaps a bit bigger than a Nissan Qashqai 7 seater
Mickeroo wrote: » So now we have a model S, 3, X and Y. S3XY.......was this deliberate? :pac:
ted1 wrote: » The issue with the third row of seats is generally there is little to no leg room in the back row. This looks the case here The Qashqai is a very poor 7 seater that doesn’t fit three kids seats. SUV’s tend to have big wheel arches which reduces the internal size. Touran, C4, grand Picasso etc are much better it carrying people
unkel wrote: » Yeah and spring 2021 in the US for the base model realistically means a 221 reg here. As you say, a good bit more competition coming by then, which is a good thing. Had this car been available for immediate delivery here, I would have ordered one today.
unkel wrote: » Of course it was. Musk tried to register "Model E" as a trademark a few years ago, but got blocked
aliveandkicking wrote: » The standard range Model Y has similar range, performance and space as the Jag Ipace, Audi Etron, Merc EQC but comes in at around half the price starting at $39,000. Obviously the other three will have better build quality and interiors but how much interior quality does $40,000 extra buy! As for the long range and performance Model Y, it blows the other three out of the water on range and acceleration for $57,000. The Model Y has a 7 seat option too which the others don't as far as I know.
Mike9832 wrote: » Great value alright It's just so bland, not ugly, but boring. Tesla badly need a new designer, even the new Roadster looks plain.
pdpmur wrote: » Is Tesla falling into the cookie cutter styling trap in that it will be hard to visually differentiate between a model X and Y, thereby devaluing the more expensive X in the eyes of potential buyers?
macnab wrote: » I think the Model Y needs to look more like an SUV to appeal to the fashion conscious buyer.
Shefwedfan wrote: » I wouldn't complain to be honest if they started to make the Y model straight away and selling it.... It make sense to me, take the Model 3, make it a little higher and sell it as a Crossover so they can get to market quickers.... The problem is they announce it and then say it will be 2021 before it will start selling. So why bother? if they are going to wait around for so long then why not do something different....I get more confused by Tesla every day of the week.... They biggest issue they have is selling an electric car into a market which buy Crossovers. They have the jump on everyone else and instead of killing the market they are waiting. By the time 2021 come around the Crozz from VW will be on sale for at least 1 year. People talk about "tesla killer". I don't think anyone needs a Tesla killer because they are doing the job themselves.....
Mike9832 wrote: » Was all good reading and agreed with everything till the VW and Crozz came up VW are going to be the biggest let down ever, it will be well into 2021 when they start selling base model's, they are only making 100k ID's in 2020 and they will be top of the range model's, not the 25k model's they are constantly talking up. Yanks are after them for more billions too which they don't have, they are even more screwed then Tesla
Shefwedfan wrote: » I am not getting into a VW conversation.... The point is Tesla have a chance to kill the competition and they are waiting around for what exactly? they are supposed to have the batteries? the Y is not a new car, they could release tomorrow. by the time it comes around loads of companies will have option out to market.....Polestar will be the car everyone will want then if they are looking for a new company
macnab wrote: » I think the Model Y needs to look more like an SUV to appeal to the fashion conscious buyer. The fundamentals of the Y are spot on but some buyers dont see beyond the looks. Obviously aerodynamics and safety were the prime directive for the design brief. Having said that I think it is a great product and will probably outsell all other Tesla models combined. Well done Tesla.
Shefwedfan wrote: » The point is Tesla have a chance to kill the competition and they are waiting around for what exactly?
Zenith74 wrote: » Cash. They turnover about $2bn a month and as they're making virtually no profit, they're therefore spending $2bn a month. At those sorts of figures, even a small percentage blip in the wrong direction would stop the company dead. When they were smaller Elon could top it up with his personal funds or do a whip around from friends, but that's just not a runner at this stage. We know Elon is obsessed with getting the world into EVs as quickly as he can, so I think if he could move faster he would. But even during the presentation the other night he mentioned how the company would have died if they didn't produce the Model3 at the required levels a few months ago (think he said they slowed MX/MS to allow it?). Think it's just a very close balancing act.
Shefwedfan wrote: » Not the story that gets told here....according to most people all the established car manufacturers are going bust and Tesla are taking over
Zenith74 wrote: » There's an eclectic mix of posters here now in-fairness . Anybody who has been involved in running/financing a business though is acutely aware that you're often faced with huge amounts of opportunity, but only a limited amount of funds to address that opportunity. If you have lots of money in the bank, or are making plenty of profit every month then you can take chances on new markets/products/opportunities, but if you're in around break-even with lots of debt and a small war chest you need to be much more careful. Tesla would need to throw I'd guess tens of billions at battery factories and production lines to get to the production numbers you're thinking of (double or triple their current numbers?), they just don't have that kind of money so need to grow organically (which means slowly).
