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The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

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Any body with either of these able to advise on what the real world economy is of these?
There is not much between them in purchase price.
The gtd 625 euro more.
I do 25000km a year and really would prefer the gti but my head tells me the gtd is what I should be looking at.
I've only driven the gti and found it very entertaining.
Dealer says resale is the same for both of them. There is only 90 euro difference in road tax and insurance the same so fuel costs are the main financial difference.

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DaveyDave

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Is it even meant to be a fake exhaust any more or is it just a styling detail in the lower bumper? It's just a chrome bead looped at the ends.

Considering how far they're placed to the sides of the bumper I'd say they aren't trying to pass off as fake exhausts. Even on the 7.5, although they're in the place of a dual exhaust they really aren't trying to pass off as one. It gives a nice symmetrical clean look to the bumper as opposed to a little exhaust poking out on one side. Also the wide/flat shape doesn't lend itself to a good look for an exhaust IMO.

They're somewhat similar in design and position of the front fogs.

Wailin

They are definitely trying to pass off as twin exhausts, it's on practically all the lower powered vag models.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jLUhclmbsw

tossy

Practically every manufacturer has at least 2 or 3 cars in the range with fake exhausts its a joke. God bless the car wow stick of truth:D

SaintsYB

tossy wrote: »

Practically every manufacturer has at least 2 or 3 cars in the range with fake exhausts its a joke. God bless the car wow stick of truth:D

BMW might have started with some awful surrounds but at least they aren't doing fake exhausts.

dar83

tossy wrote: »

Practically every manufacturer has at least 2 or 3 cars in the range with fake exhausts its a joke. God bless the car wow stick of truth:D

There's certain Mercedes that have the fake chrome look on either side but they're not completely fake, they just look absolutely shíte when you're right behind them and you can see the actual little exhaust pipe recessed inside them.

ondafly

Has anyone managed to disable the keyless entry and use only the buttons on the fob ? And still be able to start the car as it has no key slot ?

Hebegeebee

VCDS is needed to permanently disable it but you can temporarily disable it by locking with the button on the key and then pressing the indentation on the outside of the door handle within 6 seconds of locking it. This disables keyless entry, only opening by a button press for a single lock/unlock sequence.

drunkmonkey

ondafly wrote: »

Has anyone managed to disable the keyless entry and use only the buttons on the fob ? And still be able to start the car as it has no key slot ?

Haven't tried it but if you pop the key cover on the door the car should start if opened with the key.

ondafly

Hebegeebee wrote: »

VCDS is needed to permanently disable it but you can temporarily disable it by locking with the button on the key and then pressing the indentation on the outside of the door handle within 6 seconds of locking it. This disables keyless entry, only opening by a button press for a single lock/unlock sequence.

Excellent- I'll take a look at VCDS for it. Family member had their keyless entry car removed the other night.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Haven't tried it but if you pop the key cover on the door the car should start if opened with the key.

thats good to know.

[Deleted User]

Why would you want to remove such a handy and cool feature after specing it? Paranoia about theft?

dar83

Lance Tall Beagle wrote: »

Why would you want to remove such a handy and cool feature after specing it? Paranoia about theft?

The second question in your post is why I avoid it to begin with.

However, I can see it's benefits.

Truckermal

Lance Tall Beagle wrote: »

Why would you want to remove such a handy and cool feature after specing it? Paranoia about theft?

Yes I cannot understand it either my own car has it and it's so handy! If only their was such a thing called car insurance to cover a theft!!!!!

[Deleted User]

dar83 wrote: »

The second question in your post is why I avoid it to begin with.

However, I can see it's benefits.

I think it’s complete paranoia to disabling or not getting nice feature like this because of fearing theft. It’s one step up from getting worried about a “white van seen in area trying to snatch children” post on Facebook.

I’d say the number of cars stolen (if any really have) due to being keyless is absolutely tiny and not something to worry about. I’m disappointed the car I’m currently buying doesn’t have it but being second had I don’t have the option to add it.

ChuckLarry

A friend of mine recently bought a new car, their first with keyless entry, he was shocked to learn about how easy theft is possible, now places the key in a faraday bag every night.

I’ve seen a tonne of high performance cars being stolen this way on the stolen cars UK Facebook page

hooch-85

Lance Tall Beagle wrote: »

I think it’s complete paranoia to disabling or not getting nice feature like this because of fearing theft. It’s one step up from getting worried about a “white van seen in area trying to snatch children” post on Facebook.

I’d say the number of cars stolen (if any really have) due to being keyless is absolutely tiny and not something to worry about. I’m disappointed the car I’m currently buying doesn’t have it but being second had I don’t have the option to add it.

It's far more common than you think.

dar83

Lance Tall Beagle wrote: »

I think it’s complete paranoia to disabling or not getting nice feature like this because of fearing theft. It’s one step up from getting worried about a “white van seen in area trying to snatch children” post on Facebook.

I’d say the number of cars stolen (if any really have) due to being keyless is absolutely tiny and not something to worry about. I’m disappointed the car I’m currently buying doesn’t have it but being second had I don’t have the option to add it.

I think it really depends on where you live, how visible your car might be and if you have had previous 'interest' in your car/cars. It's not completely paranoia when you know someone has been sniffing around your stuff before, so if making things more awkward for them helps you sleep at night then I'm all for it.

I don't disagree the feature is great, but at the same time I have no issues with the inconvenience of using a key either. It's not often my hands are full approaching the locked car anyway, so to me the peace of mind outweighs the benefits. For others, that's obviously not the case. To each their own.

JoeA3

Had keyless in 2 MK7's. I wouldn't be too bothered if I never had it again... the one nice part with it is the push button start. The rest I could live without.
2 things in the VW implementation used to bug me:
- you still get the regular key with the flip blade. Dealers managed to scratch my steering column plastics poking around looking for the ignition barrel! So I taped down the key blade after that.
- you couldn't wash the car with the keys on you without constantly locking/unlocking the car accidentally...

ILikeBoats

JoeA3 wrote: »

- you couldn't wash the car with the keys on you without constantly locking/unlocking the car accidentally...

This is quite annoying alright

SaintsYB

The only thing I'd actually want from keyless is the push button start. I'm not too pushed about having to press the button on the key to lock/unlock the car. Then again, I suppose you could say the same about putting the key in the ignition.

[Deleted User]

I don't know, I had a rental with keyless and found it so handy leaving the key in my pocket all the time and never having to take it out.

TheAnalyst_

Keyless entry is great and I would always spec it. The only annoying thing for me is the batteries drain stupidly fast.

DaveyDave

The best part of keyless is definitely the push button start. As convenient as it is being able to lock the car with hands full of shopping bags, I could live without locking with the door handle. I usually use the fob when leaving work anyway.

It's a shame it's not more common as I find it feels more up to date. Plus it means the keys aren't rattling around on the steering column or your knee.

bazz26

Lots of cars have keyless push button start without having keyless entry.

theintern

Making my way through the thread but has anyone a list of things to check when looking at/test drive a used GTI? Heading to have a look at one tomorrow and want to give it a good once over. It's in a dealer so unlikely to be much wrong with it but still.

I already know to check for any leaks in the boot, make sure the petrol cap unlocks right (have had those issues myself) but wondering if there's any common stuff to check.

everlast75

theintern wrote: »

Making my way through the thread but has anyone a list of things to check when looking at/test drive a used GTI? Heading to have a look at one tomorrow and want to give it a good once over. It's in a dealer so unlikely to be much wrong with it but still.

I already know to check for any leaks in the boot, make sure the petrol cap unlocks right (have had those issues myself) but wondering if there's any common stuff to check.

What year is it?
What is the mileage?

theintern

everlast75 wrote: »

What year is it?
What is the mileage?

2016, low mileage, ~20k miles. Very little to worry about I know but just curious is there anything I might miss bar the usual, wheels, tyres, any creaks or rattles etc.

JoeA3

theintern wrote: »

2016, low mileage, ~20k miles. Very little to worry about I know but just curious is there anything I might miss bar the usual, wheels, tyres, any creaks or rattles etc.

There couldn't be much more to know that I haven't already told you :P:pac:

theintern

JoeA3 wrote: »

There couldn't be much more to know that I haven't already told you :P:pac:

Haha definitely.

A few bits and pieces that Joe (our resident Golf encyclopedia) has imparted in case others are looking. A few things to check to see if the car has been well looked after and a few other general things.

- Check alloys for and scuffs or marks
- Check exhaust to see how filthy/clean it is
- Check for any front suspension noise
- Are the seat bolsters in good nick?
- Check has it DCC (mode button, and comfort as one of the modes)
- Look under good light for any scrapes/dings down the sides
- Take a good look at the paint for scrapes/small scratches to see if it was washed right
- Is App Connect enabled (for post 152 models)
- Tread on tyres
- Leaks in wheel well in boot
- Fuel door locks and unlocks with key (though this seems to have only been an early mk7 problem)

JoeA3

OSI wrote: »

App Connect wasn't widely available till March/April 2016 and was a cost extra, wasn't standard till 162, so don't expect it to be there on a 161 unless someone was stupid enough to pay €300 for it ( like me :pac: )

And me...

Any car with the MIB2 Nav unit can have it activated... so it might be a good one to ask the dealer for as a sweetener if buying...

theintern

OSI wrote: »

During a test drive I would activate and test the functionality of the Adaptive Cruise, very expensive to put right if it's acting up.
If you're going DSG, make sure it moves up and down the gears smoothly. If you find the car bucking or hesitating, especially at low speeds, there's likely an issue. In saying that the current iteration seems to be relatively trouble free.
Pop it into reverse and make sure the rear view camera works, heard of a few the motors going in them.
App Connect wasn't widely available till March/April 2016 and was a cost extra, wasn't standard till 162, so don't expect it to be there on a 161 unless someone was stupid enough to pay €300 for it ( like me :pac: )
Also, for some strange reason people have an odd obsession with stealing the sat nav SD card out of the glove box when trading in their car, just make sure it's there and the maps load.

Some great stuff in there.

This one is a 162 so hopefully it's activated, if not I'll be asking to have it included.

I would never have thought of the sat nav sd card, or the centre caps on the wheels, cheers!