TUS Programme

Brian99Brian · 15-03-2019 10:17AM

Deleted User wrote: »

They don’t really care. Their only reason for existing is to get people to broaden their horizons and accept any job.

Thats my impression of it now alright, I worry Ill be like a fish out of water cause Im not very DIY inclined

jeffk · 15-03-2019 11:22AM

Ah the aul take any job

I got
Take any job, no, found one suited, didnt work out
Back to take any job, no, lose 9 weeks dole, almost 2K,took any job

dhaughton99 · 15-03-2019 07:41PM

Brian99Brian wrote: »

Thats my impression of it now alright, I worry Ill be like a fish out of water cause Im not very DIY inclined

Start, fake an injury and go on the sick.

splinter65 · 15-03-2019 08:11PM

dhaughton99 wrote: »

Start, fake an injury and go on the sick.

The absolute cheek of them expecting people to work. It’s unbelievable. 19 1/2 whole hours? Every week? Sure that’s inhumane! They think that people are mugs. Fake an injury, go out sick, and sue the arse off them.

jeffk · 15-03-2019 11:37PM

splinter65 wrote: »

The absolute cheek of them expecting people to work. It’s unbelievable. 19 1/2 whole hours? Every week? Sure that’s inhumane! They think that people are mugs. Fake an injury, go out sick, and sue the arse off them.

Have you been on these schemes before?

Do you call sitting on a couch drinking coffee watching Jeremy Kyle work

scamalert · 19-03-2019 04:20PM

Brian99Brian wrote: »

I just got forced into accepting a role on Tus which wasn't in the line of work I asked for.
The guy on the phone was really pushy and gave me 3 options none of which was the kinda thing I said I wanted.
I explained this but he was really insistent and said he'd get started on the paperwork immediately.

well to be fair TUS isn't there to give you a job that you'd like.

whats wrong with one you were given or offered ?

Derek! · 21-03-2019 01:14AM

jeffk wrote: »

Have you been on these schemes before?

Do you call sitting on a couch drinking coffee watching Jeremy Kyle work

You get what you pay for in this life.. so a euro an hour more than most were getting already minus the bus fare costs that sounds about right

Brian99Brian · 21-03-2019 10:06AM

scamalert wrote: »

well to be fair TUS isn't there to give you a job that you'd like.

whats wrong with one you were given or offered ?

Well I wouldn't apply for a job I was unable to do on my own so I shouldn't have to with Tus either.

Brian99Brian · 21-03-2019 10:07AM

dhaughton99 wrote: »

Start, fake an injury and go on the sick.

Nice to know I have options if it doesn't work out lol

21-03-2019 10:14AM

Brian99Brian wrote: »

Well I wouldn't apply for a job I was unable to do on my own so I shouldn't have to with Tus either.

If there’s a genuine reason why you cannot do the job, then you just show them the proof and you don’t have to do it.

Brian99Brian · 21-03-2019 10:21AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If there’s a genuine reason why you cannot do the job, then you just show them the proof and you don’t have to do it.

Theres no major reason other than the fact I've never been good at fixing things which is what I expect part of the caretaker job might involve..
Guess I'll have to just stick it out for a year now that the pushy guy has the ball rolling on it

21-03-2019 10:28AM

Brian99Brian wrote: »

Theres no major reason other than the fact I've never been good at fixing things which is what I expect part of the caretaker job might involve..
Guess I'll have to just stick it out for a year now that the pushy guy has the ball rolling on it

Schemes like this can be a good learning curve. Learn what you can and do any training available. You never know but you might surprise yourself by enjoying the challenge.

Brian99Brian · 21-03-2019 05:11PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Schemes like this can be a good learning curve. Learn what you can and do any training available. You never know but you might surprise yourself by enjoying the challenge.

Yea that's true.. I'll at least hear them out at the placement meeting on Thursday anyway..

Does anyone know if people on Tus get the extra €5 per week or is that just for jobseekers?

stigy919 · 22-03-2019 06:23PM

I got a letter last week asking would I be interested in taking part in the Tus scheme and I said yes. It would be good to get out of the house for a couple of hours a day. But today I got a call from Seetec to attend a Jobpath joint information session on Tuesday. Will being called up to Jobpath affect me being able to take a place on Tus as I haven't gone to any meeting with Tus yet. The person who called me said to go to the information session and explain it to them but im afraid once I go i'll be stuck with them and not be able to take a Tus placement. I was with jobpath for a year before and it was a complete waste of time.

scamalert · 23-03-2019 01:01PM

stigy919 wrote: »

I got a letter last week asking would I be interested in taking part in the Tus scheme and I said yes. It would be good to get out of the house for a couple of hours a day. But today I got a call from Seetec to attend a Jobpath joint information session on Tuesday. Will being called up to Jobpath affect me being able to take a place on Tus as I haven't gone to any meeting with Tus yet. The person who called me said to go to the information session and explain it to them but im afraid once I go i'll be stuck with them and not be able to take a Tus placement. I was with jobpath for a year before and it was a complete waste of time.

problem is once SW pick out people from what i recall, TUS and other schemes get your details as well so its matter of who will get to you first. I think that if you get invited for Seetec first that nulls out TUS programme, as they would have higher priority go figure, someone else might correct me on that, but its a tricky one.

stigy919 · 23-03-2019 09:12PM

scamalert wrote: »

problem is once SW pick out people from what i recall, TUS and other schemes get your details as well so its matter of who will get to you first. I think that if you get invited for Seetec first that nulls out TUS programme, as they would have higher priority go figure, someone else might correct me on that, but its a tricky one.

Yeah I didnt actually get any invite from TUS themselves. Just a letter from the SW asking would I be willing to take part in TUS. I'm gonna call in to them on monday and see what they say. Hopefully i'll still be able to take a TUS placement

scamalert · 23-03-2019 10:55PM

stigy919 wrote: »

Yeah I didnt actually get any invite from TUS themselves. Just a letter from the SW asking would I be willing to take part in TUS. I'm gonna call in to them on monday and see what they say. Hopefully i'll still be able to take a TUS placement

thats the way it works they send letter from SW which you cant basically refuse for interview.

that said tell TUS that you got called by Seetec as they probably wont know it, as with Tus getting placement can take a while from several weeks to couple months.

stigy919 · 24-03-2019 04:43PM

scamalert wrote: »

thats the way it works they send letter from SW which you cant basically refuse for interview.

that said tell TUS that you got called by Seetec as they probably wont know it, as with Tus getting placement can take a while from several weeks to couple months.

Yeah if I get called for an interview to tús I'll let them know. Hopefully I do.

I don't mind going to seetec it's just that I don't drive and it's about a 30min drive from were I live with no public transport and the last guy had me coming in 3 or 4 days a week to job search. Ended up getting cut off for 9 weeks cause I couldnt get a lift for some appointments and he reported me to SW

S4albarn · 18-04-2019 09:32PM

So is there any way of getting out of this?

I want to go back to college on Springboard in September unless I find a suitable job before then. I have no desire to go to work in the local GAA club or wherever Tús sends you.

If you reject the invitation, will the weekly payment be reduced or cut completely? Will there be a follow up letter or is this the only time they earn you that your payment may be affected?

Should I write that I am interested in alternative schemes like springboard or seetec on the comment space?

Thanks.

Trevor777 · 07-05-2019 04:27PM

Hi all,
I was wondering how a transfer from one Tus placement to another works? as in how much time and stuff?

Im about 3 weeks into mine but between the crowds in the hall and being expected to clean up the litter around the area near a busyish road, my anxiety levels have sky rocketed.
I need the money so I cant just stop going before anyone suggests it lol.

30-08-2019 12:59PM

Lion Killer wrote: »

I got this letter recently. I cannot see them offering me anything suitable or useful. I am going to return the letter and not accept their "offer".

Is it likely that I will be sanctioned?

Why not go and see what they have to offer. You just might get the help you need to find a job or retrain.

Hmmmmm? · 30-08-2019 01:50PM

i was sent to Tus and refused a GAA job but after i signed.
they flipped out and threatened to cut my dole i complained to the dole office
about there attitude
they sent me back to turas nua
not that big of a deal in the end just don't let them push you around

IF YOU GET A JOB WHEN YOU ARE WITH THRAS NUA DON'T LET THEM KNOW THEY WILL TAKE CREDIT REGARDLESS IF THEY HELPED OR NOT
TURAS NUA IS A SCAM WITH THERE FAKE COURSES THAT SHOULD NOT QUALIFY AS COURSES

Hmmmmm? · 30-08-2019 02:03PM

you will not get **** from Tus that is not what they do
it is cheap labor closer to slave labor than a real job
Tus take good full time high paying taxable jobs and and turn them into 4 to 5 extremely low paying nontaxable jobs
i can get the cleaning up a little trash or painting a gazebo to make a park look good but taking care of GAA fields or Charity shops
they are more than capable of making money to pay a worker

scamalert · 30-08-2019 02:44PM

i had mixed experience with TUS.
the supervisor was great in all regards and put me trough ton of training certs- one would usually have to pay for, thus some benefit and also it cut into placement days so made experience more durable.

thou working with c^nts that see this as easy free fckn help was most draining part. As some snobs in places see you as slave for them.

As OP who said he wont bother, id say go but pick carefully or even make **** up if needed to land smth that takes least of time and responsibilities. Until you sort yourself out with proper job.

also if you do accept any placement talk with person who does it or other people in same place on TuS to get good perspective, this will go far if placement is total dump.

laurey · 04-09-2019 01:48PM

Redish wrote: »

FYI I have had 2 calls for TUS and i signed the letter at the start and never turned up. Say yes in letters and do nothing

Are you saying to ignore the tus letter? Surely tus would inform social welfare no?

LegacyUser · 15-09-2019 10:17PM

I’ve just finished my TUS scheme. Really felt it was a massive waste of time and now I’ve signed back on and their telling me it will be 3-4 weeks until my payment comes through as there’s a huge backlog. Which is disgraceful I was told going back into JSA would be seamless. I havnt been paid Nearly 2 weeks and I’m completely broke. I’m also wondering will I lose my Christmas bonus this year as you have to be on JSA for 15 months to qualify?

segosego89 · 25-09-2019 07:16PM

laurey wrote: »

Are you saying to ignore the tus letter? Surely tus would inform social welfare no?

In my experience the system eventually places those who refuse to accept Tús placements on a 9 week payment suspension. So for example, if you received two or three letters from Tús and didn't engage with them, you might think that you're okay for a few months because nothing has happened to your payment but then you might get a nasty surprise randomly one week when you visit the post office to collect your payment and find that the clerk behind the counter says there's nothing there for you. That's the DSP's indirect way of telling you that your payment has now been suspended because you didn't engage with the Tús letters.

Then obviously you'll have to contact your local welfare office and ask why you couldn't collect your payment in the post office for that week and you'll have to go through the unpleasant scenario of dealing with an angry clerk in the social welfare office who has to explain to you that your payment was suspended because you didn't engage with the Tús people. The people in the office might be able to reinstate your payment(JSA etc) but that will be only be a temporary reinstatement. It's implied but not explicitly explained to you that in order to reinstate your payment fully you will have to respond to the letters and take up a Tús placement.

Also if you live outside of a city or town and you're used to collecting your payment in a post office that's located in a rural or semi rural area they will force you to collect your next payment(the first payment that you receive after getting your payment temporarily reinstated) in the main post office that's located either in the nearest big town or the nearest big city depending on where you live. This is just the DSP sending you another message that you must engage with the Tús people. The way the system is set up is a bit ungraceful but that's the way it is.

I'm a bit surprised that there is not more coverage in the media about the Tús scheme and how it's set up. You hear tons of negativity about JobPath in the news but you never hear anything about the Tús scheme? Maybe people that are forced onto the scheme feel they have no power?
If I remember correctly the Tús scheme was set up to appease the countries that bailed Ireland out during the recession? I think Éamon Ó Cuív was responsible for bringing in this thing when he was Minister for Social Protection in 2010.

segosego89 · 11-10-2019 02:51PM

Hi, just wondering if I'm right in saying that people on the Tús scheme might be working cleaning up litter in a specific location(local GAA pitch lets say) one week and then will be cleaning up litter in a different location(a playground lets say) on a different week?

If you're offered a job working as a groundskeeper at a local soccer pitch for example does that mean you will always be working at that specific place or is it at the Tús advisor's discretion to bounce you around to different areas of your local town to work on things that weren't mention in the initial job offering?

11-10-2019 04:26PM

This gang are mad keen on me. Got two letters saying "Ballyhoura" TUS and I replied to both saying I live in the city and Ballyhoura is massively out of the way (I don't drive). Anyway got a letter about an appointment at Intreo office a week ago. It didn't say anything about being penalised if I didn't turn up, the weather was god awful, I also had a cold so I didn't bother. Also around the same time I had another one of the LES appointments and I emailed them could I reschedule as I had the flu/cold or whatever it was. Yesterday I got a call about missing the Intreo appointment. They told me it was TUS and just because it said "Ballyhoura" didn't mean I'd be placed out there and to just turn up for an interview, have a chat and I "didn't have to take it" (their words).

Now in addition today I got a letter from Intreo telling me to turn up for an appointment next week and this letter does have the dreaded "payment may be reduced" at the bottom. I'm guessing it's a bollocking for missing the LES appointment. I have rescheduled twice before (I just rescheduled I did always turn up the second time). I only have three appointments left with LES and was ill so it's a bit OTT to call me in to Intreo in my opinion.

But there you go. My head is spinning with all the different letters, appointments and phone calls. Not sure what to do about TUS. I got a letter from them too today as a follow up to the phone call. It says I need to ring to make an interview. Doesn't say I have to do it. From reading here it sounds like I really do need to engage with them.

scamalert · 11-10-2019 04:27PM

segosego89 wrote: »

Hi, just wondering if I'm right in saying that people on the Tús scheme might be working cleaning up litter in a specific location(local GAA pitch lets say) one week and then will be cleaning up litter in a different location(a playground lets say) on a different week?

If you're offered a job working as a groundskeeper at a local soccer pitch for example does that mean you will always be working at that specific place or is it at the Tús advisor's discretion to bounce you around to different areas of your local town to work on things that weren't mention in the initial job offering?

its possible depending on area, but would be best asked at the interview.

As i see TUS as a contribution back instead of sitting on dole, but lets be honest all the fckn jobs they offer are paid jobs that they abuse for whatever charity gaa public service etc, which gives none to little skills for majority people doing them, plus all the places get massive funding's from EU and state to sit on their ass for decades, doing bare minimum.

as remember couple years back when i was with TUS in the interview they wanted to push some reception job for some clown who does events etc - total piss take.

entire scheme should be revamped into 3months placement probation period if person is able to work they should get permanent contract, not picking 20 people and doing rotations on places that are well able to hire staff - as looking back at own experience its like jobdrige you could end up in decent place, but you get bare minimum wage, fck u attitude from other workers who are paid, and at the end, only benefit is that you want to get off the dole, not to repeat any of the same $hit.

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