Deleted User wrote: » Why are people surprised that extremist acts rile up extremists??? There are countless examples throughout history, go no further than this island. This is foolishness and can blind to the danger of where this can lead to. It is exactly what the extremists, on both sides, want. Lets just hope there isnt an inevitability to this kind of a path.
The Moleman wrote: » He probably feels the same as the rest of us right minded people, but why do you about him specifically?
suicide_circus wrote: » untwist your knickers there lads. it was a genuine question about the availability of guns in NZ, not a political remark.
batgoat wrote: » The title of that manifesto alludes to "The Kalergi Plan". A far right conspiracy about population replacement. Fair few users in this site subscribe to it and the likes of Gemma O'Doherty have pushed it. So it was very much a person with extreme racist political views so no question of it being a terror attack.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Never heard of that 'plan' but 'replacement migration' is something the UN refer to in the past (so 'replacement migration' is no conspiracy theory)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replacement_migration#Criticism
Calhoun wrote: » Violence begets violence, it's why we are so fearful of a hard border as we Irish know it all to well. The path to escalation from extremists groups is not a long one.
Deleted User wrote: » Never heard of that 'plan' but 'replacement migration' is something the UN refer to in the past (so 'replacement migration' is no conspiracy theory)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replacement_migration#Criticism
Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: » is not the www fueling this crap? imo it is. hatred and murder is just a click away.
Calhoun wrote: » There was a documentary on fertility lastweek, and they had Irish experts on talking about migration as a form of population replacement for lower birthrates.
Samuel Vimes wrote: » Any evidence this scumbag even claims to be Christian or claims to be acting in the name of Christianity? Or are you just trying to use this atrocity to make some cheap point?
University of Auckland Professor Douglas Pratt is an international expert in religious terrorism and the author of Religion and Extremism: Rejecting Diversity. He said the language, phrases and world-view of the suspected Dean Ave gunman's manifesto pointed to this being a form of Christian terrorism. "This is not simply political, it is a deeply-engrained religious extremism. "These people act on the premise that Muslims are the people to be feared because they are seen to be extreme, and this would be considered a pre-emptive strike." Pratt, who has been tracking this type of terrorism since the London bombings, said there had always been an underground thread of this in New Zealand. It entwined with far-right white supremacist beliefs. "As we become more secular religion goes more underground, including extreme forms of it. I was expecting at some stage it would manifest in a violent act."
Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: » NZ have very open gun laws. Where high powered weapons can be got much more easily in comparison to Oz, and also basically all European countries.
Snow Garden wrote: » I think it's fair to say that Christian terrorists attacked the mosque.
Deleted User wrote: » Link? I haven't seen anything like that.
CHRISTIAN RELIGIOUS EXTREMISM University of Auckland Professor Douglas Pratt is an international expert in religious terrorism and the author of Religion and Extremism: Rejecting Diversity. He said the language, phrases and world-view of the suspected Dean Ave gunman's manifesto pointed to this being a form of Christian terrorism. "This is not simply political, it is a deeply-engrained religious extremism. "These people act on the premise that Muslims are the people to be feared because they are seen to be extreme, and this would be considered a pre-emptive strike." Pratt, who has been tracking this type of terrorism since the London bombings, said there had always been an underground thread of this in New Zealand. It entwined with far-right white supremacist beliefs. "As we become more secular religion goes more underground, including extreme forms of it. I was expecting at some stage it would manifest in a violent act."
The Moleman wrote: » No the internet in not fuelling this, people are fuelling this. The internet is a tool. Blaming it is like blaming a hammer for hitting your fingers. You hit your own fingers. Berners-Lee carries no responsibility for what people do.
Snow Garden wrote: » Stuff is a popular news website in NZhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/national/111324932/christchurch-mosque-shootings-naive-to-think-this-wouldnt-happen-here
Deleted User wrote: » So no link? Got it.
batgoat wrote: » Inspired by Breivik apparently.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/15/new-zealand-mosque-shooterbrenton-tarrant-says-attack-inspired/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: » i wonder how Tim Berners-Lee feels this morning?
Snow Garden wrote: » I just gave you a link. Who did you think it was? Atheist terrorists? Muslim terrorists?