thebond wrote: » Ryanair expected to make annoucement later about new orders of MAX, hopefully they will suspend order until crash investigation completed etc
devnull wrote: » A couple of the press in the UK have gone live with articles saying that Ryanair operate the same plane at present and questioning the safety of the planes. One them even went with a headline asking whether the plane was safe and who was still flying it, and a picture of a Ryanair 737-800 underneath the headline with the first paragraph claiming they were operating MAX. Unfortunately it's no surprise that the usual suspects use the situation to get another dig in but it may well be Ryanair trying to limit any damage by such misleading articles.
troyzer wrote: » Airbus conspiracy.
devnull wrote: » Obviously with Ryanair recently speaking about Airbus orders being made for Laudamotion and also considering ordering more Boeing planes, then some might say that this whole situation might have the potential to save them a bit of money on future aircraft.
devnull wrote: » O'Leary has confirmed that Ryanair are taking no immediate action.
PCros wrote: » Witnesses who saw the plane come down have said a trail of smoke was coming from the rear of the plane and that debris a luggage fell after the impact..."An eyewitness told AFP the plane came down in flames. “The plane was already on fire when it crashed to the ground. The crash caused a big explosion,” Tegegn Dechasa recounted at the site." What would this mean?
troyzer wrote: » That's the Ryanair way. Remember they claimed they were in talks to move to Comac? Gas stuff.
L1011 wrote: » Eyewitness reports are more often wrong than right.
IngazZagni wrote: » And why would they as they are not getting their first Max for a month or so. No need to rush to a decision.
There's a reasonable understanding of what the issue was with the Lion Air. I think Boeing and the FAA are looking at some software modifications, which I understand may or may not have been made. Again, the problem with this is you're into the realm of speculation and we're not speculating
PCros wrote: » Really? Appears its come from multiple witnesses though. I guess only time will tell.
At an airshow in 1952, a supersonic fighter disintegrated in the air causing the death of both crew and 29 spectators (Staff, 1952). Over 100,000 people witnessed the accident. A public appeal was put out for witness accounts and photographs to help solve the mystery, resulting in several thousand letters being collected. Rivas and Bullen (2008) found “many of the accounts are touchingly detailed and well intentioned, but the whole of the vast mail was of little use” (p. 186). The vital clue that led to determination of probable cause was supplied by a cine film. The in-flight breakup happened in less than a second, and almost all the eyewitnesses, including experienced pilots, gave grossly inaccurate accounts when compared to the film record.
GM228 wrote: » https://twitter.com/joe_elway/status/1105117584171651072?s=19 It does seem to be a bit of "Ryanair bashing" to me, people forget about the likes of Norwegian or Southwest and FlyDubai (SE and FD have the two largest fleets?) who actually operate them at present unlike Ryanair.
A couple of the press in the UK have gone live with articles saying that Ryanair operate the same plane at present and questioning the safety of the planes. One them even went with a headline asking whether the plane was safe and who was still flying it, and a picture of a Ryanair 737-800 underneath the headline with the first paragraph claiming they were operating MAX. Unfortunately it's no surprise that the usual suspects use the situation to get another dig in but it may well be Ryanair trying to limit any damage by such misleading articles.
TrustedApple wrote: » Two nearly new 737 max crashed in the past few months something not right with these planes. My thoughts are with the poor people on board
mac_daddy wrote: » My wife and I are due to fly on a Max 8 this Friday. Very nervous about it now, especially with leaving kids at home!
Tomw86 wrote: » Reading through this is shocking. Boeing will be in serious sh1t if this causes another crash in the near future. I doubt Ryanair will collect on their order anytime soon.
Roger_007 wrote: » I just saw on the news that the two recorders have been recovered but they may be badly damaged. Why is it not possible to transmit the flight data in real time to a ground-based database so that finding the recorders wouldn't be so vital after an accident. It could also be used to quickly locate a plane that went down in a remote area, or at sea or to assist maintenance engineers to resolve any problem which occurred during a flight. Each airline could maintain its own database or subcontract to a third party. Once a flight has landed without incident the data for that flight could be wiped.
jasper100 wrote: » The riskiest part of the journey is the drive to the airport.
circular flexing wrote: » Trying to reliably transmit data from air to ground would be a nightmare (especially the amount of data being generated by modern aircraft), there would simply be too much latency for it to be reliable.
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