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Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

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rob316

pablo128 wrote: »

Rubbish. I grew up in a council estate in North Clondalkin in the 80s when there really was fcuk all to do. Out of me and my 4 brothers, 4 of us are tradesmen. I had classmates go to Trinity. I have worked from the age of 15.

And this is from someone whos dad got injured when I was 7 and never worked again.

The neck of you to tar everyone with the same brush.

Sorry my reply was tongue in cheek to the guy that called social housing tenants wasters.

I live in council house also and work very hard.

Some people rise above it and others don't, it also depends on your home environment.

deceit

rob316 wrote: »

They are low life wasters because they have been dumped or grew up in an address that has a bad name. Employers won't look at ya, colleges don't even come to your school about 3rd level education, **** facilities.

It's demeaning and you end up turning to crime, wasting your life on the dole.
Have a few kids by your early 20s, free house, live off the state. Rinse and repeat.

The cycle has to be broken. I firmly believe you are a product of your environment.

I grew up in a ****ty area (right beside liffey valley) and I went to a crappy school. Principal told us in our final year the school had the lowest grades on average for leaving cert the previous year.
I still did well for myself (2 degrees and multiple other qualifications) along with a very interesting and high paying job. (I got this from working HARD and not from expecting it to be handed out)

The comments sound like excuses. I still put my family home as my address for work as I move a lot and never once did it impact me getting a job.

Over half the people in my estate were utter scum (other half were usually extremely nice). These first half no matter were you put them, they were going to end up the same way (on the dole/overdosed/killed in gangs). The second set most ended up like me and move onwards to better things.

pablo128

rob316 wrote: »

They are low life wasters because they have been dumped or grew up in an address that has a bad name. Employers won't look at ya, colleges don't even come to your school about 3rd level education, **** facilities.

It's demeaning and you end up turning to crime, wasting your life on the dole.
Have a few kids by your early 20s, free house, live off the state. Rinse and repeat.

The cycle has to be broken. I firmly believe you are a product of your environment.

Rubbish. I grew up in a council estate in North Clondalkin in the 80s when there really was fcuk all to do. Out of me and my 4 brothers, 4 of us are tradesmen. I had classmates go to Trinity. I have worked from the age of 15.

And this is from someone whos dad got injured when I was 7 and never worked again.

The neck of you to tar everyone with the same brush.

Wheeliebin30

rob316 wrote: »

They are low life wasters because they have been dumped or grew up in an address that has a bad name. Employers won't look at ya, colleges don't even come to your school about 3rd level education, **** facilities.

It's demeaning and you end up turning to crime, wasting your life on the dole.
Have a few kids by your early 20s, free house, live off the state. Rinse and repeat.

The cycle has to be broken. I firmly believe you are a product of your environment.

Some generalizations there.

Blaming everyone except the individual.

rob316

They are low life wasters because they have been dumped or grew up in an address that has a bad name. Employers won't look at ya, colleges don't even come to your school about 3rd level education, **** facilities.

It's demeaning and you end up turning to crime, wasting your life on the dole.
Have a few kids by your early 20s, free house, live off the state. Rinse and repeat.

The cycle has to be broken. I firmly believe you are a product of your environment.

Wheeliebin30

Dannyriver wrote: »

In order for snobby bastards to realize that not everyone in social housing is a low life waster

Not everyone no but a huge proportion.

Problem is it takes one family to wreak havoc in an estate.

Dumping a few of these lads and their families in private estates is your solution?

Dannyriver

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Why should low life wasters be put in amongst hard working people who pay a mortgage and want to live normal lives?

In order for snobby bastards to realize that not everyone in social housing is a low life waster

Wheeliebin30

rob316 wrote: »

Dumping people into mass social housing projects has always been a disaster. Look at Ballymun before, darndale. It doesn't work.
Social housing needs to be integrated with private housing estates.

The state have to stop creating ghettos which are a hot bed for crime and unemployment. It's a vicious circle and keeps repeating.

Why should low life wasters be put in amongst hard working people who pay a mortgage and want to live normal lives?

Dannyriver

rob316 wrote: »

Dumping people into mass social housing projects has always been a disaster. Look at Ballymun before, darndale. It doesn't work.
Social housing needs to be integrated with private housing estates.

The state have to stop creating ghettos which are a hot bed for crime and unemployment. It's a vicious circle and keeps repeating.

Well said, i'm from limerick and the same problems occur here, the more notorious housing estates were built on the outskirts of the city in the 80's and they were all thrown in there en masse with **** all facilities and the added stigma that the address alone instigated discrimination when it came to employment a generation on and we have issues with social disorder. It has nothing to do with race/religion/colour it has to do with inequality . Sociological research backs this up for decades, anyone who says differently needs to read a book that deals with underlying causes and not the symptoms.

rob316

Dannyriver wrote: »

While they re at it I wonder would they do something about the gangs of white Irish teens that are making life hell for older residents in housing estates in our bigger cities or is that permissible because they are real native Irish?

Dumping people into mass social housing projects has always been a disaster. Look at Ballymun before, darndale. It doesn't work.
Social housing needs to be integrated with private housing estates.

The state have to stop creating ghettos which are a hot bed for crime and unemployment. It's a vicious circle and keeps repeating.

Dannyriver

rob316 wrote: »

It's a pattern that happens in any country with middle Eastern or African immigrants. Somalians were a huge problem in Australia, London can't handle them. Look at the spike in crime in Germany with Merkel letting the dregs in.

Liberal pussy footing isn't helping. Media are afraid of the reprecussions of even calling these gangs black. It needs to be stamped out fast.

While they re at it I wonder would they do something about the gangs of white Irish teens that are making life hell for older residents in housing estates in our bigger cities or is that permissible because they are real native Irish?

rob316

It's a pattern that happens in any country with middle Eastern or African immigrants. Somalians were a huge problem in Australia, London can't handle them. Look at the spike in crime in Germany with Merkel letting the dregs in.

Liberal pussy footing isn't helping. Media are afraid of the reprecussions of even calling these gangs black. It needs to be stamped out fast.

Phil.x

Was talking to a 61 year old man i work with who lived all his life there, he said its gone mad but it doesn't bother him, he said.

Clytus

Dante7 wrote: »

The really big players have it all running through legit companies and even make donations to political parties. Jim Mansfield was probably one of the biggest drug dealers this country has ever seen. He's dead, so we can now say this.

I wouldn't underestimate the power or knowlesge of Revenue. Its the only State agency that you have to "prove" your innocence to...and they're more powerful than the Gardai!!

Rows Grower

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

A Garda commissioner had his daughters wedding at Citywest

Cough

Sweet Lord Jesus Christ above in heaven.

SEPT 23 1989

Rows Grower wrote: »

Was he the chap that had his own private airport that had no customs officers stationed there?

A Garda commissioner had his daughters wedding at Citywest

Cough

Rows Grower

Dante7 wrote: »

Yep.

I'd love to know which Minister or official signed off that particular business to make it legal and above board. Crazy stuff altogether and poor people going to jail for no TV licence.

Dante7

Rows Grower wrote: »

Was he the chap that had his own private airport that had no customs officers stationed there?

Yep.

Rows Grower

Dante7 wrote: »

The really big players have it all running through legit companies and even make donations to political parties. Jim Mansfield was probably one of the biggest drug dealers this country has ever seen. He's dead, so we can now say this.

Was he the chap that had his own private airport that had no customs officers stationed there?

Dante7

Get Real wrote: »

Clown with a gun. The only proper gangsters out there are the ones who act as if they're not.

The proper gangsters will have all their affairs in order. No snap chats of wads of cash, no social media posts. They'll be polite, well mannered, seemingly hard working people. (On a front level I mean).

One that we all know who set up a chauffer company, was pictured with celebrities, was a businessman for all intents and purposes. Could explain the nice (but not flashy) suits and meals out.

Same as in Goodfellas where they rob DHL of millions, and Robert DeNiro berates the lads who went and bought the wife a fur coat, or flash car.

The ones who portray themselves in videos with guns, balaclavas, gold watches or Snapchats with a stack of 50s, are the monkeys on the bottom rung. Trying to act Billy big balls.

Too stupid to keep it quiet. Too stupid to be respected.

The really big players have it all running through legit companies and even make donations to political parties. Jim Mansfield was probably one of the biggest drug dealers this country has ever seen. He's dead, so we can now say this.

#Smokey#

El_Bee wrote: »

How do you explain Mr Flashy?

Wardy wont last long. He's way too high profile and he's nothing without Capper and Smyth backing him up.

El_Bee

Get Real wrote: »

Clown with a gun. The only proper gangsters out there are the ones who act as if they're not.

The proper gangsters will have all their affairs in order. No snap chats of wads of cash, no social media posts. They'll be polite, well mannered, seemingly hard working people. (On a front level I mean).

One that we all know who set up a chauffer company, was pictured with celebrities, was a businessman for all intents and purposes. Could explain the nice (but not flashy) suits and meals out.

Same as in Goodfellas where they rob DHL of millions, and Robert DeNiro berates the lads who went and bought the wife a fur coat, or flash car.

The ones who portray themselves in videos with guns, balaclavas, gold watches or Snapchats with a stack of 50s, are the monkeys on the bottom rung. Trying to act Billy big balls.

Too stupid to keep it quiet. Too stupid to be respected.

#Smokey# wrote: »

If you have to show who you are then chances are you're a nobody.

Real g's move in silence...

How do you explain Mr Flashy?

#Smokey#

Get Real wrote: »

Clown with a gun. The only proper gangsters out there are the ones who act as if they're not.

The proper gangsters will have all their affairs in order. No snap chats of wads of cash, no social media posts. They'll be polite, well mannered, seemingly hard working people. (On a front level I mean).

One that we all know who set up a chauffer company, was pictured with celebrities, was a businessman for all intents and purposes. Could explain the nice (but not flashy) suits and meals out.

Same as in Goodfellas where they rob DHL of millions, and Robert DeNiro berates the lads who went and bought the wife a fur coat, or flash car.

The ones who portray themselves in videos with guns, balaclavas, gold watches or Snapchats with a stack of 50s, are the monkeys on the bottom rung. Trying to act Billy big balls.

Too stupid to keep it quiet. Too stupid to be respected.

If you have to show who you are then chances are you're a nobody.

Real g's move in silence...

Get Real

El_Bee wrote: »

I guess what I meant to ask was is this guy a proper gangster or some random clown with a gun.

Clown with a gun. The only proper gangsters out there are the ones who act as if they're not.

The proper gangsters will have all their affairs in order. No snap chats of wads of cash, no social media posts. They'll be polite, well mannered, seemingly hard working people. (On a front level I mean).

One that we all know who set up a chauffer company, was pictured with celebrities, was a businessman for all intents and purposes. Could explain the nice (but not flashy) suits and meals out.

Same as in Goodfellas where they rob DHL of millions, and Robert DeNiro berates the lads who went and bought the wife a fur coat, or flash car.

The ones who portray themselves in videos with guns, balaclavas, gold watches or Snapchats with a stack of 50s, are the monkeys on the bottom rung. Trying to act Billy big balls.

Too stupid to keep it quiet. Too stupid to be respected.

Roger Hassenforder

The Enbalmer wrote: »

He's dropping beats now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCLySA7V2SA

"A bippity bobitty bipitty bopitty bipitty boo
1+1+4 -3 equals =2"

Pure gold

Odyssey 2005

The Enbalmer wrote: »

He's dropping beats now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCLySA7V2SA

:):)

The Enbalmer

#Smokey# wrote: »

It's me Simey again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5zZjfjAq9I

He's dropping beats now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCLySA7V2SA

Clytus

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

A man, 30, has been arrested and €360,000 worth of cannabis seized after a van was intercepted in Coolock.

The seizure was made yesterday, Thursday, March 7, as part of an operation targeting a crime group operating in Dublin and Kildare.

The man is currently being held in Ballymun garda station.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/man-arrested-360000-cannabis-seized-15942467

Isn't that Mr Big territory?

Anyone know how Big gets on with Flashy?

Dannyriver

GinAndBitter wrote: »

It's you that needs the reality check pal.

Ok Sun-shine

#Smokey#

refusetolose wrote: »

"Hey it's me"

It's me Simey again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5zZjfjAq9I