EnzoScifo wrote: » 60% growth in passenger numbers on the 220 since the introduction of 24 hour timetable.
cgcsb wrote: » We could add a couple of hundred onto motor tax to fund the gap I suppose, but you could argue that would be punative to people no living in Cities, Ireland still has nearly 40% of the population living in rural areas. I would propose imposing a tax on companies within the urban area that provide staff parking, it is a benefit in kind after all, and then start replacing on street parking with more cycle lanes and better foot paths, keep some loading areas, dissabled spaces and ecar charging points. At present if you own a car and your company offers free parking, you are going to drive, no other modal choice makes sense. It has to become expensive to park.
questionmark? wrote: » Imagine the impact that would have on traffic if replicated across the network. Goes to show if you make it a usable service it will be used!!
Tomtom364 wrote: » questionmark? wrote: » Imagine the impact that would have on traffic if replicated across the network. Goes to show if you make it a usable service it will be used!! I'd imagine it would have a very small impact on traffic considering the Incease would be due to the numbers on late hours services that didn't exist before at times when traffic isn't a problem at all.
who_me wrote: » I agree that the company parking is an appealing perk, but presumably that has its own cost to the company (in the form of the cost of the land, which is increasingly expensive; and perhaps in maintenance/monitoring). Instead of lots of companies along the route, all offering their own parking spaces, they could voluntarily contribute to a 'bus fund'. How much does it actually cost to run one bus (fuel & driver) for a day? Having a free 24 hour bus nearby would be a very nice draw for staff, and it'd help any company who has (or wants) longer/more work shifts. And for any of those who are calling for additional such routes, Bus Eireann could set a target: if businesses can subsidise a set percentage of the cost, they'll offer extended hours service. And if it hits a higher percentage (full cost, or full cost with the help of a Government subsidy) they'll offer a full 24/7 service.
munstermagic11 wrote: » There’s enough tax/fees paid on buying a car, fuel, motor tax, NCT... Asking for hundreds to be added to motor tax is also asking to increase business costs, and therefore the cost of the product bought by the consumer.
kuro2k wrote: » A tax will never happen, government talked about introducing a parking bik tax over 10 years ago Public / Civil servants benefit most from free city center parking. Very few private sector employees have free parking in urban areas
Brussels Sprout wrote: » Abtran moved out of the University Technology park, on the Curraheen Road, last summer. Of the 4 units in the park they were occupying 1.5 of them (I believe). There is at least 1 entire unit still unoccupied 9 months later. This is a unit which comes with a lot of parking spaces for employees and has easy access to the N40 (south link road), the N71 (Bandon road) and the N22 (Macroom Road). If a tenant can’t be found for that then I wonder what’s going to happen with all the of the multitude of office buildings that are in the pipeline, most of which are in city centre locations with little or no employee parking.
snotboogie wrote: There was a new unit built in the Airport business park last year and it's still empty 6 months later. Similar spec to what you just described. I believe the idea is that your regular business park offices have a completely different clientele than the Grade A office space being built at the moment in the city centre and that the demand lies with the fancy new builds. So far they have been proven right, One Albert Quay and 85 South Mall are fully let. Navigation Sq phase 1 has 900k sq ft out of 106k sq ft pre let. The Capitol has been at 90% occupancy for the last 12 months.
fiload wrote: » Which building is this? I only know of one building recently built in the business park but it is occupied by a civil engineering company
snotboogie wrote: Directly across from Amazon. Are MMD occupying that? I thought they just built it. The car park is 90% empty whenever I’m up there.
cgcsb wrote: » I don't think that's accurate. Where do the thousands of car commuters go for the day when they bring their cars into cities, they must park somewhere. Street parking is expensive and often difficult to find, it's not a realistic commuting option to find and pay for street parking. Much of the offic buildings predating the 1990s have lots of parking, this should be rationed, converted to other use and taxed mercilessly.
kuro2k wrote: » Can you list a few of the pre 90's office buildings in the city centre that have lots of free parking for employees?
cgcsb wrote: » Much of the offic buildings predating the 1990s have lots of parking
cgcsb wrote: » Are you asking specifically about Cork? I don't know
cgcsb wrote: » Are you asking specifically about Cork? I don't know. They're definitely not depending on street parking on a daily basis anyway, that'd be at least €15 per day, €75 a week etc. plus no guarantee of getting a space. If it were the case that the majority are parking on the street then rush hour traffic wouldn't be an issue in Cork. Also this presents a simple Oslo type solution. Remove almost all street parking, replace with bigger footpaths, cycle lanes and keep only a handful of disabled spaces and ecar charging points. Better yet, do both, get rid of street parking and tax companies providing it by the space.
munstermagic11 wrote: » Hang on, either you know of you don't. If there's so "much", you could at least name a few that have lots of parking.
Brussels Sprout wrote: » I think most people would agree that reducing the number of cars and parking spaces in the city is a good thing overall. In order to do this we’re going to have to put in place a number of things:Decent, reliable public transport that can get people in and out of the city centre from the suburbs and surrounding county towns Plentiful high density accommodation within the city centre to allow people to live car-free Safe, well-marked cycle lanes to encourage people to switch from cars to bikes. An orbital road that surrounds the entire city with multiple park & ride facilities that will allow people not served by public transport to commute from rural areas to the peripheries of the city Right now we don’t have any of the above. Hopefully an influx of workers to the city centre in the next 5 years will force these issues to be resolved. My fear though is that it just compounds existing problems around traffic bottlenecks and makes life miserable for everyone in the city centre.
GavRedKing wrote: » This is the definition of hearsay and conjecture. You cant say buildings from the 90's are filled with car park spaces, then say you dont know if they are and then say workers are definitely not relying on on-street parking. As an example, theres quiet a bit of free parking down around the marina and center park road, where people are parking from 6.30/7am onward and walking into town. On any given day, theres easily 50+ cars down there.
cgcsb wrote: » My previous post was in the context of urban Ireland in general. I don't know that many office buildings in Cork. Although I'm certain Cork is no exception in that regard. Also the cars are going somewhere every day.
cgcsb wrote: » Is Cork exceptional in it's 60s 70s and 80s office buildings?
munstermagic11 wrote: » If you just have an agenda to remove all cars from the city, ok.
cgcsb wrote: » Ok, lets assume office blocks don't have parking. Where do all the cars go between 9 and 4.30?
