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Bonham Quay development

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Given this is the largest development in the center of the city for nearly 2 decades I reckon it warrants its own thread

Contract awarded to begin work on Bonham Quay office development

A contract has been awarded for enabling works on the €105 million Bonham Quay office development.
Enabling works are expected to commence very shortly on the mixed use development of four office blocks with two cafés as part of the Bonham Quay inner city redevelopment.

The new office buildings are being constructed on the site of the former Topaz oil storage facility on Dock road, Queen street, and Bóthar na Long.

Full story at link

https://www.galwaydaily.com/news/bonham-quay-office-contract-awarded/

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thebackbar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279899#Comment_120279899

What is currently being built beside Bonham quay at the moment ? is it more offices ?

GBXI

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120283028#Comment_120283028

They are a prime example of what we need more of and have added substantially to the area.

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120280477#Comment_120280477

One of the blocks in salthill was a derelict bungalow

GBXI

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120280477#Comment_120280477

Has to happen if the city is to avoid stagnation. City needs thousands of new apartments.

what_traffic

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120280112#Comment_120280112

Ya those blocks in Salthill are replacing what was a smaller apartment block so not sure if they count? You are right though to highlight this - very little has been done in this City area in the last 15 years. Ceannt Station and around the docks have so much potential.

GBXI

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120280018#Comment_120280018

As far west as Blackrock, east as far as the G Hotel, north as far the new Headford road junction. I'm thinking within a 40 minutes walk or an easy cycle.

Now that you mention it, there are two blocks in Salthill nearly finished.

GBXI

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120280042#Comment_120280042

Sorry, I meant non-student - which is also obviously in dire need but at least you can see the improvements here (Westwood, Coach Station as you say, blocks near Corrib village). TKMaxx building is mainly office/commercial with a few apartments at the top but they are all holiday lets.

The only one I can think of is at the Newcastle Road junction opposite the petrol station. They're really nice apartments and good use of space (should have been 2 stories taller but whatever). Either way, the lack of new apartments in the town is an embarrassment.

Mrs OBumble

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279899#Comment_120279899

Student block beside the coach station.

Ones above TK Max - now sure if they're all used as tourist places or not.

what_traffic

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279899#Comment_120279899

Define the City Centre? How many km's from Eyre Square

GBXI

Superb development, by the way. Looking forward to seeing it all finished soon. Now to build some similar style apartments around the city centre. Has there been a block of apartments built in the past 15 years?

what_traffic

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120243778#Comment_120243778

Or once the Council make enough interest from the Development levies that can fund the works.

The Developer has paid significant levies already for this type of work so ya they are probably waiting for somebody to get knocked down before doing the works

fergiesfolly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120243179#Comment_120243179

I suspect the first pedestrian getting hit by a vehicle will be the only thing to focus their attention

Unrealistic

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120241452#Comment_120241452

Apparently the spot where a rounded corner footpath should be is controlled by Galway City Council (either directly, or indirectly through the Port company) and they have not granted the developers the necessary permission to complete the footpath. The tenants and landlord are both trying to put pressure on the local authority to facilitate this getting resolved.

thebackbar

Incredibly sloppy how this footpath was built at Bonham quay, zero regard for people in wheelchairs or pushing buggies.

what_traffic

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Can LOCAL area plan really include things like that, in an area miles away under the control od a different TLA?

Yes it could. The station itself is only 200 meters away as the crow flies.

westgolf

If it's done right, Bonham quay should be accessible from the former busyard now carpark beside the Meyrick/Railway station buildings. That would make it immediately accessible to all forms of public transport and give the occupants the choice of how to get to work.

[Deleted User]

Mearings wrote: »

And never the twain shall meet?

No. You are looking for a development levy applied by a local authority to be used for national infrastructure. National infrastructure is funded at the national level, not the local level

Mearings

Deleted User wrote: »

Not possible, feasible or realistic, not least because its the property of CIE and damn all to do with the council

And never the twain shall meet?

[Deleted User]

Mearings wrote: »

Council should get railway double tracking to Athenry as a condition of this development.

Not possible, feasible or realistic, not least because its the property of CIE and damn all to do with the council

Mrs OBumble

what_traffic wrote: »

That would be about the same cost as the Bonham Quay Development itself. A contribution towards such a scheme would make sense. Its kind of thing you might include in an LAP.

Can LOCAL area plan really include things like that, in an area miles away under the control od a different TLA?

Patrick 1959

Looks great . Looks to me like it’ will transform a run down area adjacent to the city center enlarging Galways central shopping and Business district.

stampydmonkey

Souless looking building

what_traffic

http://www.bdp.com/en/projects/a-e/bonham-quay/

Will Galway Port be planting all the trees and removing its Quayside Car Park I wonder?

what_traffic

Mearings wrote: »

Council should get railway double tracking to Athenry as a condition of this development.

That would be about the same cost as the Bonham Quay Development itself. A contribution towards such a scheme would make sense. Its kind of thing you might include in an LAP.

Mearings

Council should get railway double tracking to Athenry as a condition of this development.

what_traffic

brutes1 wrote: »

But if the blocks hold 3500 workers
Where will they come from ?
50% county , 50% city and suburbs most likely
I dont see given current travel patterns how at least 50% wont drive =1750+ cars extra in area+ there will be major extra traffic and huge pressure on parking spots legal or otherwise

The travel plan is not detailed
It doesnt consider in detail the numbers in the development, existing travel patterns nor concrete scenarios and plans for change or new modes of transport

Agree.
Your projection stats look good - this mirrors the current CSO distribution of workers in Galway City. (This is why Galway City has the Car traffic it has, no Outer Ring Road will fix that. :rolleyes:)
Interesting thing here though Bonham Quay development could be up and running very soon indeed. I reckon a block could be finished mid 2020. Office block buildings of this scale are very quick to build.
Passed site Wednesday night and it had a drilling derrick in situ.

what_traffic

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

As I read about the places which the council is proposing to do an LAP plan for, I wondered which of these you think the council should drop,in order to do one for the Bonham Quay and/or Ceannt areas? (I'm assuming that limited resources means only so many of these can be done an any given planning cycle.)

HA HA HA HA HA HA. Such logic.
LAP are not costly to produce, its clear you do not understand what they are about.
The "cost" to the Council?
Rates Rates Rates is where they get the €€€€€! Thats why no LAP.

zell12

You'd never know Bonham is located adjacent city, county, national bus termini and also a rail terminus

brutes1

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

People get really upset with suggestions that geographically targetted hiring is needed: they think a small time farmer from Bally-faraway should have as much chance of an inner city job as someone who lives in an urban environment. So if you put that idea in a plan, it will make it harder to sell to potential tenants.

But really it needs to happen if employers are serious about reducing their carbon footprint - or even about retaining a workforce with the small amount of parking that's likely allocated to them.

The council / NTAs role is to make Bally-faraway an acceptable hiring location by provinging park and public transport options. That's covered in the plan that zones areas for development, rather than individual building plans.

No LAP plan here ?

This is a massive development and should have a proper travel plan is my point, 3500 people where else employs that many? Parkmore springs to mind and look at travel chaos there
Why would a proper plan not be there rather than the standard vague reports that are really not adding anything

Mrs OBumble

brutes1 wrote: »

The travel plan is not detailed
It doesnt consider in detail the numbers in the development, existing travel patterns nor concrete scenarios and plans for change or new modes of transport

People get really upset with suggestions that geographically targetted hiring is needed: they think a small time farmer from Bally-faraway should have as much chance of an inner city job as someone who lives in an urban environment. So if you put that idea in a plan, it will make it harder to sell to potential tenants.

But really it needs to happen if employers are serious about reducing their carbon footprint - or even about retaining a workforce with the small amount of parking that's likely allocated to them.

The council / NTAs role is to make Bally-faraway an acceptable hiring location by provinging park and public transport options. That's covered in the plan that zones areas for development, rather than individual building plans.