Mr. teddywinkles wrote: » Don't forget lots more consumers because birth rates down across Europe. Doesn't matter what way it affects society. It's grand once we're selling our ****e to keep top dogs rich
ArchXStanton wrote: » Because "diversity is our strength" is another useless catchphrase from the EU as they try water down national identity, they don't give a fiddlers as long as they get their superstate... With plenty of cheap labour
sk8erboii wrote: » The vast majority of people accept multiculturalism as a net positive lad.
Auntie Semite wrote: » When you're 33 or 43 and realising you can't afford a mortgage, ever increasing rents, due to to an endless influx of people keeping property at a premium you might not like it. When you're 33 or 43 and realise there is an endless supply of labor competing for your job and keeping wages suppressed you might not like it. When you're 33 and realise you can't afford to have kids but you see all those 'minorities' around you with large families you might not like it. When you're 33 or 43 and notice that you're one of the only white faces in your neighbourhood and that your neighbours don't seem to like you very much you might not like it. When you're 33 or 43 and you notice that there is a significantly large proportion of the population that adheres to a very assertive, and aggressive religious belief and that they hold a serious amount of political power and change the laws to reflect that religious belief you might not like it so much. When you're 33 or 43 and realise that your country is starting to resemble south Africa in terms of crime and violence you might not like it. When you're 33 or 43 and realise that the new majority population have regressed to their own cultural practices and did not (as you thought they would) become Liberal like you then you might not like it. When you're 33 or 43 and you notice that women's and lgbt rights have regressed completely because they do not reflect the majority opinion then you may not like it. When you're 33 or 43 and notice that Pakistan is still majority Pakistani, Nigeria is still Majority Nigerian, China is still majority Chinese etc but Irish are a dwindling minority you might wake up and think.... Oh Sh1t Think about the future
Yer Da sells Avon wrote: » I think multiculturalism is grand. I think most people are fairly ok with it, tbh. Away from the internet, most people are ok, full-stop. The internet seems to attract a lot of angry lads who are full of misery and don't see anything positive anywhere. Life's too short to obsess over stuff like this.
Ted Johnson wrote: » Peter Sutherland wanted unlimited migration into Europe, yet lived in Kenningston. Says it all.
Ted Johnson wrote: » If diversity is our strength then why are the vibrant, ethnic areas in Europan cities such utter ****holes?
nlrkjos wrote: » Various cultures in a society can exist on an equal footing once all are respected, religion,color,language,food and art can co-exist.
sk8erboii wrote: » Im sure its irrelevant while you type on an american laptop, on a website coded by an indian guy, while tucking into some chinese so you can get ready to work for a british company in the morning
sk8erboii wrote: » Mate thats literally what multiculturalism means. I know you desperately want it be defined as mass migration (which is part of the MC gestalt) but thats not all it is.
thats [sic] not all it is
Multiculturalism is defined as the spread of people and ideas.
History is defined as the spread of people and ideas
sabat wrote: » The Vietnamese have defeated all-comers for millennia - Indians, Chinese, Khmer, French, Americans et al. Like Afghanistan, it's one of those places and peoples you just don't invade.The Philippines was American soil until 1946.
And the nations that are still on flux are the ones that were affected by European imperialism, which entailed exploitation of people and resources.
Its not that hard to understand. Vietnam for example, was under the throes of French hegemony up until the 70s hence why they are wary of white landowners. In the same way Ireland is still collectively staunchly anti-British hegemony. Contrast say with the Philippines who are very much open to foreigners due to America fighting for their liberty against Japan during WW2.
sk8erboii wrote: » Its not that hard to understand. Vietnam for example, was under the throes of French hegemony up until the 70s hence why they are wary of white landowners... ... Contrast say with the Philippines who are very much open to foreigners due to America fighting for their liberty against Japan during WW2.
gozunda wrote: » OP why do defensive on the subject? If multiculturalism is indeed so wonderful - why do we need to tell people it is - shouldn't it be self evident? As to the definition you gave - I believe multiculturalism has a much wider meaning in this discussion than which you give it credit tbh. Now I know I'm being lazy but here is Wikipedia for a basic primer to start. Now explain why if multiculturalism is such a natural state of affairs as you have claimed, does Europe and the US remain the largest immigration destinations worldwide. Surely we should be supporting the idea of diverse immigration as a means to global multiculturalism to all nations and not just western ones? What happens when the majority of the worlds countries do not support such ideas?
sk8erboii wrote: » Reactionary types beware: Multiculturalism is defined as the spread of people and ideas. I know you're already thinking about white genocide, catholic oppression and that liberal arts girl that rejected you for being rough around the edges. But hear me out, because im about to tell you why multiculturalism is good. The one reason: It's the default state of humanity.You ever wonder why those forgotten tribes like in the sentinel islands is rare and in many ways primitive? Because they are not like us. The rest of the world has managed to collectively cooperate. One guy comes up with a great idea and someone else from another country copies it and improves it. Thats multiculturalism. I made this thread as a response to the obvious xenophobic hatemongering in other posts. Like some scumbag throwing acid to a child's face, somehow implicates every immigrant and they should be put under a proverbial spotlight. Its tenuous logic at any point of view. Right now I want you to imagine if Ireland became your insular and backwards utopia. Forget about the Wakanda syndrome (That if a nation somehow closes its borders and focuses on itself it will become advanced) and look at case studies. The empire Japan is the poster boy for the self-serving xenophobic nation state. And it was 200 years behind until it stopped the blockade then it entered modernity. If Ireland had no multiculturalism (which includes the Catholic church) it would literally be a depressing backwater even moreso than it was for hundreds of years. Everything you ever owned, knew and f*cked is influenced by foreign people.That doesn't mean genocide, asmuch as self-victimizing citizens in the top 10 quality of life in the world would have you think. It simply means acknowledging that Ireland and multiculturalism are deeply intertwined, even back to the building of 'native' structures (which were built by people that came from spain, scandinavia and france). Ireland's golden days when it was all 'native' never existed. In fact, those days were among the most depressing and oppressive in history that the population never recovered. Blighted by a food that came from Peru.
The term multiculturalism has a range of meanings within the contexts of sociology, of political philosophy, and of colloquial use. In sociology and in everyday usage, it is a synonym for "ethnic pluralism", with the two terms often used interchangeably, for example, a cultural pluralism in which various ethnic groups collaborate and enter into a dialogue with one another without having to sacrifice their particular identities. It can describe a mixed ethnic community area where multiple cultural traditions exist (such as New York City) or a single country within which they do (such as Switzerland, Belgium or Russia). Groups associated with an aboriginal or autochthonous ethnic group and foreigner ethnic groups are often the focus. In reference to sociology, multiculturalism is the end-state of either a natural or artificial process (for example: legally-controlled immigration) and occurs on either a large national scale or on a smaller scale within a nation's communities. On a smaller scale this can occur artificially when a jurisdiction is established or expanded by amalgamating areas with two or more different cultures (e.g. French Canada and English Canada). On a large scale, it can occur as a result of either legal or illegal migration to and from different jurisdictions around the world (for example, Anglo-Saxon settlement of Britain by Angles, Saxons and Jutes in the 5th century or the colonization of the Americas by Europeans, Africans and Asians since the 16th century). Multiculturalism as a political philosophy involves ideologies and policies which vary widely.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » The op has basically confused multi culturalism in one country with openness to trade and/or new ideas. Which isn’t the same thing at all. Japan is now open to western ideas, as well as its own, but it’s not multicultural. Nor is a multi cultural state the same as a multi ethnic or pluralistic state. The US never described itself as multi cultural until revent decades, though it was always a nation of immigrants. It instead promoted the idea of a melting pot, e pluribus unum. Now it’s e pluribus multis. Obviously Europe needs immigrants, it also has a right as a (trigger alert) great and ancient civilisation to choose who those immigrants are and to demand that the immigrants integrate into this great and ancient civilisation. Instead, and this isn’t the fault of the immigrants, the demand is often to replace the existing with the new, to take down the statues that have the audacity to have been white in a country that was 100% white, to “decolonise” English literature (absurdly more common in England) , to scorn or remove from sight paintings or photos of white men — including soldiers, to demand an end to white supremacism in countries that have been white for all history. Whatever that means. That is I think what understandably gets people's back up.
sk8erboii wrote: » where do you find time to rereg and make 150 posts the past month? It'd be a handful for sure, with all your family and career
GinAndBitter wrote: » Im not offended, I just thought your comment was a bit much that's all, I do have a teenage sister but you weren't to know that. I'm not of those people you are describing.
