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The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

carsfan

Any body with either of these able to advise on what the real world economy is of these?
There is not much between them in purchase price.
The gtd 625 euro more.
I do 25000km a year and really would prefer the gti but my head tells me the gtd is what I should be looking at.
I've only driven the gti and found it very entertaining.
Dealer says resale is the same for both of them. There is only 90 euro difference in road tax and insurance the same so fuel costs are the main financial difference.

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hooch-85

This one got some smack

https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/53465278

Anthonylfc

if somebody was to buy that from ireland

would vrt be charged at auction winning price ?

bazz26

VRT is charged at what Revenue think the market value is of the car in Ireland. What you pay for the car in another country makes no difference to Revenue when it comes to VRT valuations.

drunkmonkey

There's a surcharge on the winning big, you'd have good grounds to appeal the amount or vrt you were charged. Your not going to get as much when you go to sell it so you need to take that into account when deciding what to pay.
Keep pictures and receipts for any work done so you can show them to any prospective buyer in the future if there worried.

drunkmonkey

dar83 wrote: »

Only guessing from the damage listing (secondary: all over) and the drivers footwell you can spot a little bit in a pic, but I think that was at potentially a quarter/half swimmer. Might be a lot of money to sort out the interior if that was the case.

There washing the cars before the pictures could be just a big pair of messy wellies done that.
It does look like somebody tried to remove the head unit as the trim around it popped and they damaged the screen trying to pull it out.
Gear knob and gator are probably on eBay at this stage...

Anthonylfc

bazz26 wrote: »

VRT is charged at what Revenue think the market value is of the car in Ireland. What you pay for the car in another country makes no difference to Revenue when it comes to VRT valuations.

so you pay the sterling price and irish revenue decide 2018 golf gti is €35k so you'd pay 23 % on that ? sure thats like 8-10k depending on what they value it at then ur sterling coverted rate

then you have actually no idea whats wrong with it ?

pointless tbh

Toyotafanboi

drunkmonkey wrote: »

There washing the cars before the pictures could be just a big pair of messy wellies done that.

It looks just like the carpet in any stolen recovered car I've ever seen. Mats missing and absolutely filthy. Wouldn't make me think its flood damaged anyway.

Just has an unknown own quantity of scumbags climbing in and out of it and recovery truck drivers, storage ops, police etc, none of whom are anyway careful with it.

DaveyDave

Back from driving the other Cupra. Your man kept saying there's a lot of interest in the car and told me he'd email me numbers when his manager is back so I don't even have ballpark numbers.

Said we can't offer what VW can etc but they have a 181 GTI PP front and center and a nice BMW. No shortage of expensive cars on the lot. A 191 estate Cupra there also.

hooch-85

I think that PP GTi is the one Joe inquired about. Having heard how he got on I wouldn't be getting my hopes up that they will offer you a good deal

Toyotafanboi

hooch-85 wrote: »

I think that PP GTi is the one Joe inquired about. Having heard how he got on I wouldn't be getting my hopes up that they will offer you a good deal

It depends on approach too. I know some places aren't keen debating prices over the phone. Turning up and test driving etc might have a different outcome.

JoeA3

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

It depends on approach too. I know some places aren't keen debating prices over the phone. Turning up and test driving etc might have a different outcome.

Nope. I'm the other side of the country. I sent them photos of my car so they knew what they were dealing with. They had no problem talking prices over the phone, except it was a price so ludicrous it didn't warrant further conversation, never mind a 400km round trip.

The biggest problem for them is that the car is a fresh VW. They aren't a VW dealer and cannot offer a deal or finance terms on it that a VW dealer can.

DaveyDave

I spoke to Pilsen Skoda about a 172 Cupra with 40k on it for €32,950. Offered me 18k for mine, didn't even get to a test drive. Spent ages looking at my car then came back with €4xx scribbled on paper. Nothing about how much mine was worth, APR, minimum value etc. Complete waste of time, high mileage and not priced well compared to the others.

Gave me the usual "we're not VW we can't offer the same" and told him I had an offer of 21,5k from a non-VW dealer which quickly stopped his excuses.

kevodaly

Hi all - I know this has come up so often - but just looking for some real world up to date info on your consumption figures in your DSG GTIs and GTDs? In particular if anyone has data from the 7.5 performance (245hp) version of the GTI.

My current car - a Peugeot 508 SW 2.0 HDI 163hp Auto has a long term average of 7.6l/100kms (37mpg) - with a mixture of a lot of short spins, school runs etc, and then at least one long run a month of up to 1000kms round trip. I average approx 20k - 25k kms per year - and I'd say I have a generous right foot!
I'd expect the GTD to be a little better, and the GTI to be more than a little worse (by how much is the question!).

Thanks in advance for any help!

SaintsYB

I think most people get ~35-40mpg from a GTI depending on the driving you're doing. It'll probably be a fairly low mpg (under 30) with lots of those short trips but you'd probably get closer to 40 on a long journey like that.

By comparison though, I'd expect the GTD to be not a huge amount better on short trips but probably closer to 50mpg on a 1000km round trip.

SaintsYB

OSI wrote: »

35-40? If you lived on cruise control and only used N roads and Motorways maybe. If most of your driving is short trips and urban, you'll be lucky to see 30.

Yeah, that's why I said it depended on the driving and on the shorter trips that he's doing, it'd be under 30.

DaveyDave

I think it's closer to 30-35mpg, no?

Royale with Cheese

I've a pre facelift manual PP. I'm getting 22-24 for nearly exclusively city driving.

JoeA3

They'll drink it if you're exclusively city stop-starting. But with a mix of driving, N roads, motorways, not doing silly speeds or traffic light GP's, you'll easily average 34-35.

drunkmonkey

Averaging 33mpg driving it the way it was intended in mixed conditions. Hasn't been out of sport mode in a few weeks. Averages 40mpg on the motorway,172 standard facelift manual.
My diesel used to average 39mpg under the same conditions so it's not that bad in comparison.

seantobin43

I've a mk7 GTD have it 3 years and my long term is 47-49mpg and I drive it hard alot of the time. Air conditioning is always turned on too. Some journeys on the short time computer is get 57mpg and when its drove hard for a short journey I'm get 38mpg minimum

I'm currently looking around for either a year old facelifted GTD or the GTI and I cant make my mind up, I'd love a petrol but I'm afraid will it break me with the extra fuel price and the amount it burns through it

DaveyDave

33-35mpg is 8-8.5L/100km. That's not great on paper but realistically it doesn't seem too bad. I get 6.4-6.8 in the 1 litre. A 25% increase for more than double the power seems ok

You'd want to be realistic though, you're going to drive with a heavy foot when you can in something like a GTI.

josephsoap

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2014-vw-golf-2-0-tdi-gtd-184/20457742

Does this seem a bit to good to be true ?

€13300 for a 2014 GTD

SaintsYB

It does seem quite low alright. It does have nearly 200,000km which is a lot but going by the advert, it has been regularly serviced so the mileage wouldn't necessarily put me off it.

noelf

Autocar has shown pictures of what the mark 8 is supposed to look like.. 7.75 ??

bazz26

Jesus, that rendering is just terrible and lazy.

Comhrá

Talk about middle age spread! That's a very bloated flabby-looking Golf.

Bordering on downright ugly.

Wailin

Don't think the colour helps either. I see VW are sticking with the fake exhaust like the rest of the VAG range. It's enough to put me off ever buying their cars by that alone.

Reckless Abandonment

Wailin wrote: »

Don't think the colour helps either. I see VW are sticking with the fake exhaust like the rest of the VAG range. It's enough to put me off ever buying their cars by that alone.

Agree. Hate seeing that on cars.

SaintsYB

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Agree. Hate seeing that on cars.

Agreed. I'd rather have nothing and it not pretend to be an exhaust port. Is it meant to look good?

Toyotafanboi

Is it even meant to be a fake exhaust any more or is it just a styling detail in the lower bumper? It's just a chrome bead looped at the ends.