Mrsmum wrote: » Just a question I'm wondering about - if a person discloses unsettling thoughts to a doctor, counsellor etc, is that confidential or is the professional supposed/allowed to tell the family or persons that could be in danger ?
iamwhoiam wrote: » Una Butler whos two little girls were killed by their father has campaigned that that information should be passed on to the family . Her husband was attending a GP and it was not passed on to Unahttps://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/mother-who-lost-husband-and-children-appeals-for-society-not-to-sweep-murder-suicide-under-the-carpet-786487.html "I called for a detailed investigation into his treatment from the HSE and also wanted the Mental Health Act 2001 to be amended to include spouses or partners in the treatment of the family member suffering with their mental health
Calhoun wrote: » They say hard cases make really poor laws, how much should or shouldn't be shared? What would this do for other people with mental health issues? What about patient doctor confidentiality?
lalababa wrote: » Windgap that's it. Yea a localish woman told me that there was something wrong there.
julyjane wrote: » my mother in law grew up a few miles away from the nearby town of Callan. I remember in the early 2000s there was a murder case there (possibly of a child by her father I can't remember) and we said something about how Callan must be jinxed because a few other things had made headlines there. It was in Windgap in 2008 where a local man murdered a single mother and her 2 children on Christmas eve, her brother has spoken out a lot in the media about the rights of victims families. The difference being the man who murdered his sister and nieces is still alive and his concerns are around concurrent sentencing and parole.
NIMAN wrote: » Wondering if this is usual for the police system in this country, and indeed others? Are the Guards protecting the family, or is there a legal reason for withholding suicide notes until inquests etc? Could the family have taken legal action to be shown the notes?
jos28 wrote: » We could be here forever discussing the 'Mad or Bad' argument but that was not the point of the documentary. Something was happening in Alan Hawe's professional and or personal life outside the home. The details of this have not been disclosed to Clodagh's family and they should be. Someone, somewhere knows what was going on and that information should not be withheld.
fiveleavesleft wrote: » Was Hawe still in Kilkenny at the time of Jo Jo Dullards disappearance?
julyjane wrote: » I don't know but she disappeared from Moone Co. Kildare so it's a bit of a stretch to connect the 2 just because they came from roughly the same area. The identity of the prime suspect is known to gardai and probably known to many journalists too and you can't libel the dead so you can be sure if there was any connection the tabloids would be all over it.
tretorn wrote: » He was a teacher though so basically on his own for most of the day with children. There are plenty of really strange teachers who wouldnt be able to function in a normal working environment, they are left in the teaching profession until retirement and given a new class every year so their failure to be able to do their job doesnt cause too much of an impact. Its absolutely impossible to get rid of poorly performing teachers too though this does appear to be changing very slowly. Teachers are also drawn to the job because of love and devotion to the GAA, lots of time off to devote to the GAA and being a member of this organisation gives you kudos in small towns and the edge when it comes to promotion, ie how many male teachers are there and how many male principals, very few male teachers but lots of male principals.
nice_guy80 wrote: » You've basically just described me - apart from the strange teacher obviously And i have neverhad the urge to murder a few people It doesn't matter what profession he is in. He could have been a florist and it weouldnt have mattered Edit: you must have a chip on the shoulder about teachers
BlackandGreen wrote: » Where did Hawe go to school as a child/teenager?
Beechwoodspark wrote: » Almost everyone will remember a certain type encountered during their school years : Oddball teachers stealing a living as they couldnt be sacked for one reason or another so they simply got more wierd and worse as time went on
Calltocall wrote: » One thing that’s a bit of a curveball was him wearing his wifes underwear, I wonder was that what he was hiding that he wanted to transition/to become a woman and perhaps the porn he was caught watching was of that nature, that would be a whole other level of shame and embarrassment particularly in a small rural town.
wobatkicker23 wrote: » You have to feel a certain level of sympathy for Hawe. If he had gotten the right help things could have turned put so differently. The mental health services in this country let down Alan and his family.
Beechwoodspark wrote: » To call him mentally ill is an insult to genuinely mentally ill ppl
