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Tommy Robinson jailed

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Apparently according to Lauren Southern, Tommy has been sentenced to 13 months but there is a UK wide embargo on reporting.

Anyone else got any info?

Edit. Not too sure about the authenticity of the embargo. I'm assuming that it's for this https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html?amp

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OMM 0000

lbc2019 wrote: »

Expert? Any link to published papers?

No thanks.

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

No thanks.

How are you an expert?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Of course there are negative consequences, but the positives outweighs the negatives.

You think there are no consequences to curbing speech?

You should try to think it through. When you properly understand the benefits of free speech, it's impossible to not want it.

So, no - you do not see consequences. You could use the same argument to disband police, promote pedophilia or declare war.

I've no problem saying I don't agree with free speech because I do see the consequences. And no, they do not outweigh the preservation of human life.

When people are caught inciting hatred and promoting violence you better believe I want them censored.

And when the pretend to be honest when they lie, pretend to be open when they're racist and pretend to want peace when they are trying to share people into commuting violence acts they should be called out on it, not idolised

OMM 0000

lbc2019 wrote: »

How are you an expert?

College + employment.

I don't work in that area anymore. But I still read the papers.

OMM 0000

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

So, no - you do not see consequences.

I've no problem saying I don't agree with free speech because I do see the consequences. And no, they do not outweigh the preservation of human life.

When people are caught inciting hatred and promoting violence you better believe I want them censored.

And when the pretend to be honest when they lie, pretend to be open when they're racist and pretend to want peace when they are trying to share people into commuting violence acts they should be called out on it, not idolised

I just said there are negative consequence, but it doesn't fit your narrative so you have to pretend I said there are no consequences. This is literally what I wrote in response to you:

Of course there are negative consequences

You have a very shallow knowledge of this topic.

Try to think through this little problem:

How do you define hate speech?

Anti black? OK.
Anti gay? OK.
Anti muslim? OK.
Anti jew? OK.
Anti fat? OK.
Anti skinny? OK.
Anti ginger? OK.
Anti Irish? OK.
Anti conservative? OK.
Anti whatever-people-get-offended-about? OK?

Seriously, try to draw the line for what is and is not hate speech. It's impossible.

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

College + employment.

I don't work in that area anymore. But I still read the papers.

As? I worked in a courthouse doesnt make me a law expert

OMM 0000

lbc2019 wrote: »

As? I worked in a courthouse doesnt make me a law expert

I have no interest in sharing my qualifications and work history with you.

donkeykong5

stefanovich wrote: »

Tommy Robinson is a hero

Hes not **** scared of pcbrigade. Guys a legend. !

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

I have no interest in sharing my qualifications and work history with you.

But a self appointed HIV expert

I dont buy it

OMM 0000

lbc2019 wrote: »

But a self appointed HIV expert

I dont buy it

I don't care. Get over yourself.

Boggles

WTF is a HIV expert?

Surely that would be a doctor, no?

Are you a Doctor?

moonage

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

When people are caught inciting hatred and promoting violence you better believe I want them censored.

In the UK there are laws against inciting hatred and promoting violence but Tommy Robinson has never been charged with them.

Panorama should have been about how he's been harrassed and persecuted by the state over the years for expressing his opinions.

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

I don't care. Get over yourself.

Says the self appointed expert... lolz

lbc2019

Why are there so many Tommy fanboys in Ireland?

OMM 0000

lbc2019 wrote: »

Says the self appointed expert... lolz

No one can be an expert without explaining their qualifications to you?

Do you have a slight ego by any chance?

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

No one can be an expert without explaining their qualifications to you?

Do you have a slight ego by any chance?

No but when someone self declares themselves expert I expect proof!

lbc2019

Boggles wrote: »

WTF is a HIV expert?

Surely that would be a doctor, no?

Are you a Doctor?

Like the anti abortion Nurse that was a temporary porter...

Boggles

OMM 0000 wrote: »

No one can be an expert without explaining their qualifications to you?

Well you are either a scientist or a doctor who has extensively studied HIV and probably has been published.

Which one are you?

No need for a CV.

OMM 0000

lbc2019 wrote: »

No but when someone self declares themselves expert I expect proof!

Yeah, well that's your problem, and says nothing about me.

Do you ask people for proof in real life? Why are you doing it online? Why do you find it difficult to be civil?

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Yeah, well that's your problem, and says nothing about me.

Do you ask people for proof in real life? Why are you doing it online? Why do you find it difficult to be civil?

How am I uncivil?

I have yet to met someone who self declared themselves as an expert in real life

OMM 0000

Boggles wrote: »

Well you are either a scientist or a doctor who has extensively studied HIV and probably has been published.

Which one are you?

No need for a CV.

Haven't you already answered your question?

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Haven't you already answered your question?

Snared

OMM 0000

lbc2019 wrote: »

How am I uncivil?

I have yet to met someone who self declared themselves as an expert in real life

Have you never heard of context?

Go back and read the post where I made the claim.

Do you think I am walking around the street, shaking people's hands and saying "Hello, I'm an expert"?

Is that how you see things, or are you able to understand context?

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

I don't care. Get over yourself.

And I am the uncivil one...

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Have you never heard of context?

Go back and read the post where I made the claim.

Do you think I am walking around the street, shaking people's hands and saying "Hello, I'm an expert"?

Is that how you see things, or are you able to understand context?

Im no expert but I have a good grasp of it!

OMM 0000

lbc2019 wrote: »

And I am the uncivil one...

Yes, you're hassling a stranger online to prove their education and qualifications.

Do you do this in real life?

Why are you doing it online?

Can you really not see the problem here?

mcmoustache

lbc2019 wrote: »

Why are there so many Tommy fanboys in Ireland?

The same reason you have people participating in multi-level marketing scams.

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Yes, you're hassling a stranger online to prove their education and qualifications.

Do you do this in real life?

Why are you doing it online?

Can you really not see the problem here?

You made the claim, I asked for evidence. Simple really

OMM 0000

mcmoustache wrote: »

The same reason you have people participating in multi-level marketing scams.

That's not fair.

I think a more fair example is people who support antifa.

Both are mostly inventing their enemy, both are extremists (extreme left vs extreme right).

lbc2019

mcmoustache wrote: »

The same reason you have people participating in multi-level marketing scams.

I have w great product you can sell for double what I charge you, but if you get others to sell it, i will give you treble!