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Tommy Robinson jailed

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Apparently according to Lauren Southern, Tommy has been sentenced to 13 months but there is a UK wide embargo on reporting.

Anyone else got any info?

Edit. Not too sure about the authenticity of the embargo. I'm assuming that it's for this https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html?amp

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lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Haven't you already answered your question?

Snared

OMM 0000

Boggles wrote: »

Well you are either a scientist or a doctor who has extensively studied HIV and probably has been published.

Which one are you?

No need for a CV.

Haven't you already answered your question?

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Yeah, well that's your problem, and says nothing about me.

Do you ask people for proof in real life? Why are you doing it online? Why do you find it difficult to be civil?

How am I uncivil?

I have yet to met someone who self declared themselves as an expert in real life

OMM 0000

lbc2019 wrote: »

No but when someone self declares themselves expert I expect proof!

Yeah, well that's your problem, and says nothing about me.

Do you ask people for proof in real life? Why are you doing it online? Why do you find it difficult to be civil?

Boggles

OMM 0000 wrote: »

No one can be an expert without explaining their qualifications to you?

Well you are either a scientist or a doctor who has extensively studied HIV and probably has been published.

Which one are you?

No need for a CV.

lbc2019

Boggles wrote: »

WTF is a HIV expert?

Surely that would be a doctor, no?

Are you a Doctor?

Like the anti abortion Nurse that was a temporary porter...

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

No one can be an expert without explaining their qualifications to you?

Do you have a slight ego by any chance?

No but when someone self declares themselves expert I expect proof!

OMM 0000

lbc2019 wrote: »

Says the self appointed expert... lolz

No one can be an expert without explaining their qualifications to you?

Do you have a slight ego by any chance?

lbc2019

Why are there so many Tommy fanboys in Ireland?

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

I don't care. Get over yourself.

Says the self appointed expert... lolz

moonage

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

When people are caught inciting hatred and promoting violence you better believe I want them censored.

In the UK there are laws against inciting hatred and promoting violence but Tommy Robinson has never been charged with them.

Panorama should have been about how he's been harrassed and persecuted by the state over the years for expressing his opinions.

Boggles

WTF is a HIV expert?

Surely that would be a doctor, no?

Are you a Doctor?

OMM 0000

lbc2019 wrote: »

But a self appointed HIV expert

I dont buy it

I don't care. Get over yourself.

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

I have no interest in sharing my qualifications and work history with you.

But a self appointed HIV expert

I dont buy it

donkeykong5

stefanovich wrote: »

Tommy Robinson is a hero

Hes not **** scared of pcbrigade. Guys a legend. !

OMM 0000

lbc2019 wrote: »

As? I worked in a courthouse doesnt make me a law expert

I have no interest in sharing my qualifications and work history with you.

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

College + employment.

I don't work in that area anymore. But I still read the papers.

As? I worked in a courthouse doesnt make me a law expert

OMM 0000

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

So, no - you do not see consequences.

I've no problem saying I don't agree with free speech because I do see the consequences. And no, they do not outweigh the preservation of human life.

When people are caught inciting hatred and promoting violence you better believe I want them censored.

And when the pretend to be honest when they lie, pretend to be open when they're racist and pretend to want peace when they are trying to share people into commuting violence acts they should be called out on it, not idolised

I just said there are negative consequence, but it doesn't fit your narrative so you have to pretend I said there are no consequences. This is literally what I wrote in response to you:

Of course there are negative consequences

You have a very shallow knowledge of this topic.

Try to think through this little problem:

How do you define hate speech?

Anti black? OK.
Anti gay? OK.
Anti muslim? OK.
Anti jew? OK.
Anti fat? OK.
Anti skinny? OK.
Anti ginger? OK.
Anti Irish? OK.
Anti conservative? OK.
Anti whatever-people-get-offended-about? OK?

Seriously, try to draw the line for what is and is not hate speech. It's impossible.

OMM 0000

lbc2019 wrote: »

How are you an expert?

College + employment.

I don't work in that area anymore. But I still read the papers.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Of course there are negative consequences, but the positives outweighs the negatives.

You think there are no consequences to curbing speech?

You should try to think it through. When you properly understand the benefits of free speech, it's impossible to not want it.

So, no - you do not see consequences. You could use the same argument to disband police, promote pedophilia or declare war.

I've no problem saying I don't agree with free speech because I do see the consequences. And no, they do not outweigh the preservation of human life.

When people are caught inciting hatred and promoting violence you better believe I want them censored.

And when the pretend to be honest when they lie, pretend to be open when they're racist and pretend to want peace when they are trying to share people into commuting violence acts they should be called out on it, not idolised

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

No thanks.

How are you an expert?

OMM 0000

lbc2019 wrote: »

Expert? Any link to published papers?

No thanks.

lbc2019

OMM 0000 wrote: »

I find it quite amazing how fake news is defined.

Do you ever notice if you're an expert in a topic, whenever you read an article about that topic on mainstream news source (e.g. the BBC), you're always scratching your head thinking what is this nonsense?

For example, I'm a HIV expert and practically every article on HIV is wrong. It's always a mix of misinformation and old wives tales. I've also a strong background is statistics, and I constantly see statistics being abused to make fake points.

And then there's all the political agendas. Look how many BBC articles are written from a feminist perspective.

It's become very difficult to find genuinely truthful news sources.

I quite like the commentator Tim Pool. He at least tries to be fair.

Alex Jones was always kind of ridiculous, but he has really lost the plot these days.

Expert? Any link to published papers?

OMM 0000

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

And you see no consequences with extremists having free speech?

Of course there are negative consequences, but the positives outweighs the negatives.

You think there are no consequences to curbing speech?

You should try to think it through. When you properly understand the benefits of free speech, it's impossible to not want it.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Your examples are not equivalent. Almost no one knew about these rape gangs. There is a strong argument to make that the courts blocking any reporting was business as usual (their rapes had been covered up for decades).

My understanding of free speech is not vague. The issue is most people here have never thought it through, yet for some reason they have strong opinions on it...

Of course extremist Islamic clerics and anti-semites should have free speech. Again, I think you don't understand what free speech is. It doesn't mean freedom of consequences.

To have free speech you have to accept speech you don't like. I understand this is an outrageous concept for some people.

And you see no consequences with extremists having free speech?

Outlaw Pete

All just far left liberals closing ranks given the release of Panodrama, doing their bit for the side as it were.

Free speech used to be something that classic liberals fought for, now these so called liberals want their opponents muzzled whenever it doesn't suit their narrative.

OMM 0000

ricero wrote: »

The censorship and lack of free speech which goes against the globalist and liberal agenda is frightening in this day and age.

Love or loathe Tommy Robinson or Alex Jones but what has happened to them is dangerous and disturbing. Scary times we are living in. The era of fake news is alive and kicking.

I find it quite amazing how fake news is defined.

Do you ever notice if you're an expert in a topic, whenever you read an article about that topic on mainstream news source (e.g. the BBC), you're always scratching your head thinking what is this nonsense?

For example, I'm a HIV expert and practically every article on HIV is wrong. It's always a mix of misinformation and old wives tales. I've also a strong background is statistics, and I constantly see statistics being abused to make fake points.

And then there's all the political agendas. Look how many BBC articles are written from a feminist perspective.

It's become very difficult to find genuinely truthful news sources.

I quite like the commentator Tim Pool. He at least tries to be fair.

Alex Jones was always kind of ridiculous, but he has really lost the plot these days.

batgoat

ricero wrote: »

The censorship and lack of free speech which goes against the globalist and liberal agenda is frightening in this day and age.

Love or loathe Tommy Robinson or Alex Jones but what has happened to them is dangerous and disturbing. Scary times we are living in. The era of fake news is alive and kicking.

Alex Jones is currently being sued by families he claimed were actors after their children died. He is a self promoting scumbag.

ohnonotgmail

ricero wrote: »

The censorship and lack of free speech which goes against the globalist and liberal agenda is frightening in this day and age.

Love or loathe Tommy Robinson or Alex Jones but what has happened to them is dangerous and disturbing. Scary times we are living in. The era of fake news is alive and kicking.

You do realise that robinson and Jones, in particular jones, are the biggest proponents of fake news? That is basically all jones did

ricero

The censorship and lack of free speech which goes against the globalist and liberal agenda is frightening in this day and age.

Love or loathe Tommy Robinson or Alex Jones but what has happened to them is dangerous and disturbing. Scary times we are living in. The era of fake news is alive and kicking.