Snake Plisken wrote: » Paul sums it up nicelyhttps://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1100396039893323776?s=19
ancapailldorcha wrote: » Left wing in the US basically means you're not on board the MAGA train.
GinAndBitter wrote: » It doesn't mean what he's saying now isn't true.
ancapailldorcha wrote: » No but the fact that you couldn't make that point without the ad hominem says a lot. This cult of Tommy thing is getting a bit weird to be honest. It's like Christianity with a crap Jesus.
OMM 0000 wrote: » Obviously you don't need to agree with whatever you read, but I am a centrist, and I make an effort to read the news on both sides of the political spectrum, and it is extremely obvious there is strong left wing bias amongst the tech companies and their employees. Even if you don't believe me, surely it's common sense - San Fransicso is overwhelmingly left wing. This is the location of Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram. So the banings generally follow this political bias.
mcmoustache wrote: » Reading the fringes on both sides will not make you more informed. You need to first figure out which sources tend to be reliable as far as factual reporting goes and correcting mistakes. You need to be able to separate them from sources that tend to be deceptive. You should also learn the difference between a report and an opinion piece.
mcmoustache wrote: » Who's he and what's his expertise? Is he one of those supplement salesmen that the incels consider an intellectual?
GinAndBitter wrote: » Can you give us some examples of what you see as reliable sources?
Billy Mays wrote: » Remember that time the White House shared a doctored video of Jim Acosta putting his hands on a White House intern to justify removing Acosta's press credentials? PrisonPlanetPaul was the scource of said doctored video.
GinAndBitter wrote: » If it's getting a bit weird for you then see yourself out of thread. I can't imagine spending my time repeating the same crap over and over again about someone I hate. Go hand out some bans or something that's what you're for.
In November, PayPal said it would no longer process payments for Mr Robinson
mcmoustache wrote: » The Wall Street Journal has excellent factual reporting and very deceptive editorials and opinion pieces. I'm providing this one as an example because it demonstrates how one organisation can provide factual reporting while being less factual with opinion pieces. This is common in many news organisations. The kind of media that I tend to avoid are the vitamin salesmen and basement video producers from social media.
Boggles wrote: » :pac: Does Stephen actually have a job?
OMM 0000 wrote: » Where did I say I only read the fringes?
OMM 0000 wrote: » Where did I say I think reports and opinion pieces are the same?
OMM 0000 wrote: » Are you one of those people who think everyone who doesn't share your political opinion must be a MAGA hat wearing nazi?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Is grifting not a job?
GinAndBitter wrote: » Fair enough, anything from this side of the pond? I don't like to watch or read American news.
mcmoustache wrote: » The Telegraph is basically the WSJ equivalent over here. Good reporting, not so good editorialising. The Indo, closer to home is what I use to keep up to date with Irish news but it's just OK and has a lot of lunatics writing opinion pieces.
OMM 0000 wrote: » I would be fairly confident he's getting funding from organisations who support his political views.
OMM 0000 wrote: » His job is an activist?
mcmoustache wrote: » I didn't say that you did. I did imply that you read the fringes of whom convicted fraudster Tommy would be a member, not to be confused with only reading the fringes. My point was that they aren't worth bothering with. You provided an opinion piece earlier as a source for a claim. It suggests that you either don't know the difference or are acting in bad faith. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. No. I'm Irish and have been on the internet long before people started thinking "I'm left wing" or "I'm right wing". My opinions on economic matters would lean heavily to the right while my views on social issues would lean left although my views on some social issues such as those relating to travellers and trans women in women's sport would probably have me leaning right again. This nonsense of identifying as left or right is just that. Nonsense. So no, I don't view those who disagree with me as being MAGA hat wearing nazis.
ricero wrote: » The censorship and lack of free speech which goes against the globalist and liberal agenda is frightening in this day and age. Love or loathe Tommy Robinson or Alex Jones but what has happened to them is dangerous and disturbing. Scary times we are living in. The era of fake news is alive and kicking.
OMM 0000 wrote: » Your examples are not equivalent. Almost no one knew about these rape gangs. There is a strong argument to make that the courts blocking any reporting was business as usual (their rapes had been covered up for decades). My understanding of free speech is not vague. The issue is most people here have never thought it through, yet for some reason they have strong opinions on it... Of course extremist Islamic clerics and anti-semites should have free speech. Again, I think you don't understand what free speech is. It doesn't mean freedom of consequences. To have free speech you have to accept speech you don't like. I understand this is an outrageous concept for some people.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » And you see no consequences with extremists having free speech?
OMM 0000 wrote: » I find it quite amazing how fake news is defined. Do you ever notice if you're an expert in a topic, whenever you read an article about that topic on mainstream news source (e.g. the BBC), you're always scratching your head thinking what is this nonsense? For example, I'm a HIV expert and practically every article on HIV is wrong. It's always a mix of misinformation and old wives tales. I've also a strong background is statistics, and I constantly see statistics being abused to make fake points. And then there's all the political agendas. Look how many BBC articles are written from a feminist perspective. It's become very difficult to find genuinely truthful news sources. I quite like the commentator Tim Pool. He at least tries to be fair. Alex Jones was always kind of ridiculous, but he has really lost the plot these days.
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