El CabaIIo wrote: » Johnny Gregorek ran some race, just behind Bernard Lagats American record record, Lagat is the second fastest 1500m runner outdoors in history so a huge result for gregorek.. I might be wrong but I think that makes the Gregoreks the fastest father/son milers in history. His father ran 3:51 in the 80's. Videos of the race are getting taken down the whole time. Here's a really cool video of the last few weeks of Kejelchas prep for the records. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjeiqH_nDI8 and here's a fan video of the race https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIaHqFm0DnE
Itziger wrote: » I was taken with how close (relatively speaking) the other, yes white, guys were........ EDIT: 2.96 secs is fairly big I guess!!
Boneshakers wrote: » Was that Brussels I wonder the day Shane Healy ran 335 He was in the papers recently
walshb wrote: » Indoor he did I think.. He was second behind EL G in 1997 WR 1500 indoors... Did he break 3.32 that day, fellas?
Boneshakers wrote: » Easier than outdoor has to be said Didn't geb run a 331 1500m
walshb wrote: » Very difficult thing to do is break the 1500 and then hang on and keep your form for another 109 meters... He has to start looking at outdoors now... I’d argue the 3.43 mile being easier than 3.26
El CabaIIo wrote: » Missed the 1500 barely, went through 1500 in 3:31 but no official split yet but nearly has to be slower than Tefera's mark
walshb wrote: » Beast. Not on google yet.. Did he get the 1500 as well? Was he going for both in the same race?
El CabaIIo wrote: » Kejelcha takes down the World Record!! 3:47.02!!!!! Almost 1.5 seconds faster than El G's Old mark!!
Limpy wrote: » And about 500 grams of sugar lol.
IvoryTower wrote: » L-Carnitine is in monster energy drink, good buzz tbf
Limpy wrote: » I hope your right. Maybe they are moving away from the old EPO days. I though your body would only need it's share of a certain vitamin and the rest would be passed.
El CabaIIo wrote: » I'm not sure that's how most people feel, even on Letsrun, absolutely nothing has been said on him on him at that's the home of accusing and doping hunts. I'm going to be honest and it will probably draw laughs from a lot of people on but I think NOP are pretty clean. I'm drawing info from things like this leaked USADA report into the Oregon project and the testimony of former athletes, coaches and staff within the group. Insiders who don't like Salazar.https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B12sfJ8SraVNTW9nU3puUklyRzQ/view If that link doesn't work, it's also here at the bottom of pagehttps://www.flotrack.org/articles/5065662-this-may-be-the-usada-report-on-alberto-salazar-and-the-nike-oregon-project I don't expect anyone will read it but the truth lies in there. Did NOP do things that might have long-term health consequences on athletes? Absolutely and would I agree with some things they did, absolutely not but on the subject of doping and crossing that line is a big leap. Kara Goucher(World Silver Medallist)who was the star witness and started the investigation by going to USADA and with NOP for 7 years and hates Salazar only took one drug in 7 years there which was Cytomel, a thyroid medicine she was prescribed while in College and under Mark Wetmore at Colarado. Cytomel is and was 100% legal and not subject to TUE protocols. No mention of EPO by any former athlete, coach or employee. What came out was that NOP were using: Vitamin C: Alberto may have been giving athletes his own prescription strength Vitamin C tablets. Vitamin C is obviously a legal supplement and has no threshold of use. Cytomel(Thyroid Hormone): Salazar was asking athletes to take more of their Cytomel to help weight loss. Cytomel is a legal medication which doesn't require a TUE. Salazar had 5 athletes who were using Thyroid hormone, 2 of which were using it before they came to NOP in Adam Goucher and Kara Goucher. L-Carnitine(amino acid food supplement): This is the big one, L-Carnitine is a legal food supplement and has no threshold for oral ingestion. It does have a threshold for intravenous use which is no more than 50ml every 6 hours. Some former athletes in NOP think they might have taken more than 50ml in an infusion and this is where the doping line might have been crossed by NOP. You're probably better off reading through it yourself as I might be open to be accused of fudging the details. It's long but it's well worth reading insider details on what's going on there before jumping on the juicing bandwagon of speculation.
Flynnboslice wrote: » That the same USADA who missed substances in Jon Jones test less than 24 hours before he was popped?